Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Okay, I’m going to share a Twitter exchange between myself and another individual. I’m not a user of Marijuana. I likely never will be. That said I think it ought to be legal and if used recreationally… just be careful. The individual with whom I’m interacting claims I have no clue what I’m talking about and that there is no problem with smoking a joint before driving or while driving. She isn’t wrong. I have no first had experience with that. However, I know the impacts of alcohol on driver performance while operating a motor vehicle and it seems to me (and the CDC agrees) that smoking a joint and then immediately hopping into the drivers seat, or smoking a joint while driving, seems like a very bad plan. Am I not correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crixus Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I used to drive stoned back when I was in Uni in Pakistan - where the law is lax at best lol (plus I was a stupid kid). Luckily nothing bad ever happened, but I do remember staring into space with glazed eyes whilst people honked angrily at me since I'd utterly missed the changing traffic signals. I also remember feeling like a 10 minute drive actually took an hour or alternately, an hour long drive passed in minutes. So not advisable, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 For the most part, the biggest issue with driving while stoned is slower reaction times. It's less how you drive and more how you react to those who drive around you. it's very very different from driving while drunk and in my opinion, not equally dangerous, but it's still dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I suppose it is a matter of tolerance. I can smoke a spliff that would drop a baby elephant without actually getting stoned. Mobile phone use at the wheel is far more dangerous. Having said that, I am vehemently anti-drunk/stoned driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonath Diver Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I smoke daily, but same as drinking I'm not about to smoke a whole joint then drive down the interstate. It certainly impairs your reactions and makes things like the radio more of an active distraction, and I'd be risking lives if I drove down the street for late night cravings same as if I left the bar after six shots of Jameson and drove home. Hooray for Uber and delivery. Full disclosure I have no ethical qualms with a nice light sativa toke in the afternoon before work. Similar to alcohol, an experienced drinker isn't going to go on a driving rampage after a beer at work lunch, but they certainly shouldn't get behind the wheel after a proper session. And I also loathe swerving, speed-altering, no signaling assholes with their eyes clearly looking down from their windshield. I live behind a high school and these kids are emotionally and physically incapable of making it a few blocks without checking their socials. I see or hear a fender bender literally twice a week in my apartment complex and it's 95% between 3 and 4pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 I agree it’s not exactly as bad as driving drunk, but it’s so little difference as to not matter, legally or ethically. Maybe the advantage of removing the % of drunk accidents that were down to drunk + aggression/rage/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippounet Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Yes. You can do a lot of things after a joint, but driving well is unlikely to be one of them. And the people who claim they can do it are the ones I'd be especially suspicious of. Though I should add, over-confidence is far more likely when boozed. Most stoners I know definitely don't want to drive after smoking in the first place ; they'd rather sit on the couch and deal with the munchies while watching cartoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 The numbers I remember seeing are that stoned drivers are twice as likely to get into an accident as sober drivers. Drunk drivers are 10 to 15 times as likely as a sober drivers to get in an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Larry of the Lake said: The numbers I remember seeing are that stoned drivers are twice as likely to get into an accident as sober drivers. Drunk drivers are 10 to 15 times as likely as a sober drivers to get in an accident. Still not good numbers. But it explains this lady deploying the “Fallacy of Relative Privation” in response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 21 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Still not good numbers. But it explains this lady deploying the “Fallacy of Relative Privation” in response. Not good. But not the same department as alcohol either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 21 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Still not good numbers. But it explains this lady deploying the “Fallacy of Relative Privation” in response. Hold on… for clarity… you aren’t arguing it is okay to get high while driving or to get high and then drive, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Hold on… for clarity… you aren’t arguing it is okay to get high while driving or to get high and then drive, correct? It's only ok to drive high if you're already drunk or actively drinking. edit: ok that was facetious. i'm assuming you were replying to me even though you quoted yourself? how about this - where is the fallacy of privation argument shes making? at no point did i say it was a good idea to drive stoned. i said it's not the same department as alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 And yes. I did mean to quote you not myself… sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 if you ever want to see how much booze affects your driving, go on your computer and play a car racing game sober and then pissed and compare lap times, its absolutely insane how much difference their is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 10 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: if you ever want to see how much booze affects your driving, go on your computer and play a car racing game sober and then pissed and compare lap times, its absolutely insane how much difference their is. Psh, I'm weaving through the streets like a madman playing GTA while faded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: Psh, I'm weaving through the streets like a madman playing GTA while faded. I loved GTA Online before it was decimated by hacks and bugs The heists were like everything I ever wanted from one of those MMO's. Instead of Gear Grinding and whatever and whatever Destiny was stupposed to be. It was also basically fucking impossible to get people to have enough attention span to actually finish one of 'em tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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