The Sunland Lord Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 4 hours ago, Consigliere said: Reports that Inter have made an offer of €22m for Scamacca. Roma are also trying to sign him but their offer was for a loan with an option to buy. Sassuolo has a 10% sell-on clause so West Ham look set to make quite a loss on this transfer.Both Scamacca and Haller are good players but were poor fits for West Ham's system. He missed 23-4 games for West Ham the last season due to an injury. Also imo Scamacca is an average striker, one of the many players Sassuolo sold for profit but didn't pan out for their next club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 11 hours ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Well, guess they also could've gone for Alisson or Salah. Those were probably the front runners. Those 2 didn't even get the vice-captaincy. That's gone to TAA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Alisson, Salah and Robertson are all part of the leadership group though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 17 hours ago, Iskaral Pust said: Separately but on the same thread of financial risk: there are too many wealthy clubs in the PL now competing for the limited number of CL spots. With City and Newcastle both oil state-funded over time, plus United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs all relatively wealthy, it means at least two clubs (after the 2024 changes to CL spots) with huge wage bills will miss out on CL revenue each year. The other major leagues have opposite situations where the number of CL spots exceeds the number of big-spending clubs. It’s an unhealthy dynamic for the PL, whosr big clubs now need the super league more than any other top league. Football is a rat race?! I am shocked. Whether the big English clubs need that super league now more than Italian clubs or Barca is open for discussion. I mean the Spanish clubs argue that EPL has distorted the market and to be competitive with them they need the Super League money. To come forward and say, the big EPL clubs have distorted the market and they need the Super League money is kinda amsuing. EPL big clubs need to learn to be smarter with their money/transfers like any bigger club across the big leagues (exception maybe Bayern, who are living off decades of successes to build on). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Thuram looked very good today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 The Premier League needs stricter financial regulations like La Liga's which is stricter than UEFA's FFP. A couple of years ago, either The Athletic or Swiss Ramble did a piece showing that only 4 clubs in England's top 2 divisions would be in compliance with La Liga's FFP. The other 40 clubs would be under either the 1/1 (a club can only reinvest an equivalent amount in incoming transfers as outgoing) or 1/3 (a club can only reinvest one-third of the amount of sales on incoming transfers) restrictions. In LaLiga, otoh, 40 out of the 42 clubs in the top 2 divisions either broke even or were in the black (only Barca and Osasuna were in contravention and under restrictions). Finances in the Championship are particularly horrific - The Athletic had an article a few months back saying that the average wage/revenue ratio in the Championship is over 100%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Yep. But that's quite different to we need pump more (Super League) money into the (big) clubs. Otherwise it's like I said. Top football is the proverbial rat race. Chasing the yummy big cheese (CL money). Some rats will lose out in this race. If they gambled on a bet of future (CL) revenue and need to cut their costs (selling players) and rebuild in the process, so be it. The big clubs are not entitled to some sorta parachute to bail them out, if they lose out on the rat race and live beyond their means. That holds true for Chelsea FC, Liverpool FC, Manchester City FC, Manchester United, Newcastle United, Arsenal FC, or any other club. Any of them find themselves in a relegation battle, because they ended up in a vicious cycle of missing sporting goals, forcing them to reduce costs (less good player), less sporting success, more need to trim their expenses etc. Then that's that. There's no birthright to play in the CL or EPL for all times. Competitive nature of pro sports. Obviously the EPL needs to up its game to stomp out outside money that distort the natural competition. But hey, you lot decided to open things up for outside investors in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 The US will not be winning the Women's World Cup if they keep playing like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I expect that at some point down the line, UEFA will start awarding additional CL places based on UEFA Club Coefficient. That'll favour those EPL clubs that didn't qualify through league position or via winning the Europa League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Consigliere said: I expect that at some point down the line, UEFA will start awarding additional CL places based on UEFA Club Coefficient. That'll favour those EPL clubs that didn't qualify through league position or via winning the Europa League. That'd be essentially the legacy (spot) model, that was firmly rejected by fans and non-legacy clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: That'd be essentially the legacy (spot) model, that was firmly rejected by fans and non-legacy clubs. Since when does UEFA give a shit about the fans? When English clubs were doing such a shit job in the Europa League that the EPL was in danger of dropping a position in the rankings and thus losing one CL spot, UEFA changed the rules to award 4 automatic places to the top 4 European leagues in order to avoid that happening. They'll implement that coefficient nonsense at some point in the future. UEFA's goal is to maximize revenue and the EPL is where the big bucks are with England's market pool being by far the biggest in the CL. ETA. this new format coming in was not popular either but UEFA lobbied hard to get it implemented because it means more money. Edited August 1, 2023 by Consigliere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Well, the outrage was enough to not implement that legacy nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) That's because the proposal came too close on the back of the Super League debacle - the Super League idea is deeply, deeply unpopular and has been for over two decades. The coefficient proposal does not elicit the same kind of hatred that any suggestion of a Super League does either. Now that the Super League is dead for the foreseeable future and the outrage has subsided, UEFA will just go back to making tweaks to the format until they get their coefficient proposal implemented. Edited August 1, 2023 by Consigliere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Obviously the EPL needs to up its game to stomp out outside money that distort the natural competition. But hey, you lot decided to open things up for outside investors in the first place. I hate to break it to you, but this is only going to get worse and it's an issue every sports league will cave to. These are businesses at the end of the day. 41 minutes ago, Corvinus85 said: The US will not be winning the Women's World Cup if they keep playing like this. Shut up, Shut Up, SHUT UP! (Yeah, they don't look great, but that was to be expected with the stars getting old and the young players lacking experience) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 41 minutes ago, Consigliere said: That's because the proposal came too close on the back of the Super League debacle - the Super League idea is deeply, deeply unpopular and has been for over two decades. The coefficient proposal does not elicit the same kind of hatred that any suggestion of a Super League does either. Now that the Super League is dead for the foreseeable future and the outrage has subsided, UEFA will just go back to making tweaks to the format until they get their coefficient proposal implemented. I don't think so. I think this "middle class club" association will push hard against the ECA lobby. Esp. the blowback in Germany headed by Frankfurt and their fanbase will be substantial. And the Bundesliga is not an investor owned carnival like the EPL. And Bayern are not as influential as Real and Barca are in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spockydog Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I've seen some brainless suggestions that Saudi are going to do what they did to golf, and buy the English Premier League. What these people don't seem to understand is that the "Premier League" is the clubs that compete in it. And nobody can buy all the clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Only seem the highlights, but James was pretty impressive today against China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 West Ham's shocker of a window continues. Ajax have hijacked their move for Carlos Borges. A shame for West Ham fans - club wins a European trophy (their first major trophy since 1980) then gets a windfall of £100m but are stuck in the transfer market because the manager and technical director are at loggerheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Consigliere said: Is this ticking clock putting pressure on Levy or on Bayern? Levy been told to sell instead of losing him on a free, and Bayern really want him. I'd guess that it added pressure on Levy, but who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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