Nevets Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, SeanF said: If Sansa persuades Dany to have Tyrion executed, then the problem is solved. On what basis? Tyrion never did Sansa any harm; in fact he was conspicuously nice to her. And Sansa is well aware the marriage wasn't Tyrion's idea in the first place. And unless she undergoes a radical change in personality, I can't see her having someone executed on false pretenses simply for her own convenience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, Nevets said: On what basis? Tyrion never did Sansa any harm; in fact he was conspicuously nice to her. And Sansa is well aware the marriage wasn't Tyrion's idea in the first place. And unless she undergoes a radical change in personality, I can't see her having someone executed on false pretenses simply for her own convenience. Also, Tyrion will get to Daenerys first, and so would have more influence over her. And as you said, having Tyrion executed just to get him out of the way would be out of character for Sansa, Sansa even notes how he was nice to her (especially in comparison to the other Lannisters). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, SeanF said: If Sansa persuades Dany to have Tyrion executed, then the problem is solved. From your lips to Martin’s fingertips. Craving Peaches, SeanF and Ser Arthurs Dawn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, Nevets said: On what basis? My wishful thinking? Craving Peaches and SeanF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Also, Tyrion will get to Daenerys first, and so would have more influence over her. And as you said, having Tyrion executed just to get him out of the way would be out of character for Sansa, Sansa even notes how he was nice to her (especially in comparison to the other Lannisters). That's like being dryer than water. Ser Arthurs Dawn, LongRider and kissdbyfire 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, Nevets said: On what basis? Tyrion never did Sansa any harm; in fact he was conspicuously nice to her. And Sansa is well aware the marriage wasn't Tyrion's idea in the first place. And unless she undergoes a radical change in personality, I can't see her having someone executed on false pretenses simply for her own convenience. As Kissedbyfire says, wishful thinking is a part of it. As to why she might, there's wedding her by force, murdering Shae, and being a lead member of a government that persecuted her family horribly. I'm partly reacting to the Abomination, here, where for ... reasons, the Starks were happy to forgive Tyrion and Jaime for everything that had been done to their family, while blaming Daenerys for the actions of Aerys. Ser Arthurs Dawn and kissdbyfire 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevets Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, SeanF said: As Kissedbyfire says, wishful thinking is a part of it. As to why she might, there's wedding her by force, murdering Shae, and being a lead member of a government that persecuted her family horribly. I'm partly reacting to the Abomination, here, where for ... reasons, the Starks were happy to forgive Tyrion and Jaime for everything that had been done to their family, while blaming Daenerys for the actions of Aerys. Wishful thinking pretty well describes it. And wishful thinking doesn't get you very far where Martin is concerned. Tyrion didn't force Sansa to marry. That was pretty much Tywin and Cersei. In fact Tyrion offered to let her back out. Sansa declined because she knew she was stuck with a Lannister and it might as well be Tyrion, who she knew and who had protected her. I doubt Sansa cares much about Shae's murder, especially since Shae made false accusations against her as well. And what is Tyrion supposed to do about the government? Rebel against his own family? We're not reading that kind of fantasy. In any case the Starks were pretty well destroyed by the time he took charge anyway. And the fall of Winterfell had nothing to do with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Arthurs Dawn Posted August 18, 2023 Author Share Posted August 18, 2023 55 minutes ago, Nevets said: I doubt Sansa cares much about Shae's murder, especially since Shae made false accusations against her as well. This is OOC for Sansa as well. She's a compassionate character and even feels pity for the people who have wronged her. But she may never find out about that anyway. kissdbyfire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 hours ago, kissdbyfire said: My wishful thinking? Of course, this will be after Sansa has poisoned Sweetrobin, or pushed him through the Moon Door. csuszka1948 and Ser Arthurs Dawn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierria Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 The Tyrion-Sansa story will end in a fashion similar to the Hunchback's and Esme's in Hugo's novel. Sansa will be executed for the deaths of Lysa. And Sweetrobin, whom Sansa will murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Arthurs Dawn Posted August 18, 2023 Author Share Posted August 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Kierria said: The Tyrion-Sansa story will end in a fashion similar to the Hunchback's and Esme's in Hugo's novel. Sansa will be executed for the deaths of Lysa. And Sweetrobin, whom Sansa will murder. ok now, slow down. we don't need to turn wishful thinking into a competition. ps, i'm not familiar with you so idk if this is satire or not... kissdbyfire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alester Florent Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Nevets said: Alayne is unlikely to have anyone interested in marriage for her claim, or any other reason, I expect. For that matter, the whole business of obtaining an annulment is effectively academic for now, as she can't do that as Alayne either. Even the proposed marriage with Harry is predicated on her real identity being revealed. Given that she's (supposedly) Littlefinger's only acknowledged child, and he's unmarried, there remains the prospect of her legitimisation, which would make her the heir to Harrenhal and the Riverlands. That's not nothing, even for someone like Harry. We don't know quite how LF is planning to play things yet. Ser Arthurs Dawn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, Kierria said: The Tyrion-Sansa story will end in a fashion similar to the Hunchback's and Esme's in Hugo's novel. Sansa will be executed for the deaths of Lysa. And Sweetrobin, whom Sansa will murder. Didn't she kick a puppy too? kissdbyfire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csuszka1948 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, LongRider said: Didn't she kick a puppy too? She has been born a Stark and lied to the King multiple crimes. These are - in itself - crimes punishable of death or at least exile. kissdbyfire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Arthurs Dawn Posted August 18, 2023 Author Share Posted August 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, csuszka1948 said: She has been born a Stark and lied to the King multiple crimes. These are - in itself - crimes punishable of death or at least exile. She also wished for the death of Janos Slynt, which is really mean and proves how evil and mad she is. And then her crazed and traitorous half brother murdered him, all because Janos was trying to talk some sense into him. Alester Florent, Kal-L, LongRider and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) nevermind Edited August 18, 2023 by LongRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, LongRider said: What books are you reading 'cuz it aint ASOIAF. I think they are, like us, taking the piss out of the infiltrated hater? Ser Arthurs Dawn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: I think they are, like us, taking the piss out of the infiltrated hater? Opps, thanks for pointing that out. Sometimes one needs a program to see who the players are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, LongRider said: Opps, thanks for pointing that out. Sometimes one needs a program to see who the players are. I hear ya. I suppose the level of inane outrageousness in haters’ posts is so off the charts that when we make silly exaggerations to point how dumb these posts are, it becomes impossible to separate the former from the latter. That’s where we are. LongRider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csuszka1948 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ser Arthurs Dawn said: She also wished for the death of Janos Slynt, which is really mean and proves how evil and mad she is. Yes, it's typical Stark entitlement. His father tried to bribe Janos, Sansa shouldn't be surprised that he lost his head for it. 2 hours ago, Ser Arthurs Dawn said: And then her crazed and traitorous half brother murdered him, all because Janos was trying to talk some sense into him. Yes. Do you know that originally GRRM intended Jon to hang Janos instead of executing him? He just changed it later when he realized that this act would give away Jon's true nature to early. Edited August 18, 2023 by csuszka1948 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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