Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) Well shit, just a few minutes ago I went to go wish one of my stepbrothers goodbye and when I come back the Packers blew it after a late TD and now the Dolphins did too? That's fucking hilarious. Edited December 12, 2023 by Tywin et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Rhom said: If they do, hand Peyton the coach of the year trophy the second the regular season ends. I think they would have to pry it from Ryans hands in Houston to hand it to Payton, how about a cage match for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 After the controversy last night, I was watching for whether people line up offsides on MNF. The answer is yes, they do it all the time. Defensive linemen and wide receivers are in the neutral zone at the snap quite regularly. I understand that you aren't going to throw the flag all the time, and most of the time a warning is just fine. But that calls into question why Toney was called on that particular play without being given a warning. All in all, it's just really unfortunate that an all time great play was nullified because of something that basically didn't matter. And it's not like a TD there would have handed the game to KC. I felt like Buffalo had a very realistic chance of driving down the field for another epic finish. But instead, one of the craziest touchdowns I've ever seen was taken off the board and we got...the opposite of a great finish. Mr. Chatywin et al. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 The "basically didn't matter" aspect is what's frustrating. So often we see incredible plays made by both the offense and defense that get called back because of some ticky tack shit that had zero influence on the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: The "basically didn't matter" aspect is what's frustrating. So often we see incredible plays made by both the offense and defense that get called back because of some ticky tack shit that had zero influence on the result. That's true, but rarely so obviously as this. Even a ticky tack holding call can be the difference between a sack and touchdown. Illegal motion can confuse the defense and give up a big play, and thus it needs to be called. But offensive offsides just isn't that important. Obviously you need the rule - you cannot have receivers line up 5 yards down the field. But the advantage gained from being 6 inches further forward is minimal in the extreme. And I mean, he was offsides. There's no question that the ref made the correct call by the book. But standard practice is to give a warning except in the most egregious cases, and this does not qualify. Last night i saw receivers on both Tennessee and Miami lining up equally far forward without it getting called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, Maithanet said: And I mean, he was offsides. There's no question that the ref made the correct call by the book. But standard practice is to give a warning except in the most egregious cases, and this does not qualify. Last night i saw receivers on both Tennessee and Miami lining up equally far forward without it getting called. It happens all the time, sure. But Toney didn't check with the ref and Mahomes and Reid have since said as much. It sucks and I wish they had let it slide, but it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horangi Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 I was glad it was called since my main competitor in Fantasy has Kelce, but I would have liked to have seen how they scored it in fantasy. I guess receiving yards for Kelce and then rushing yards and TD for Toney? I cant remember if a backward pass past the scrimmage line counts as a pass or a rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 The one good thing is that the flag was thrown immediately. Had it "appeared" after the TD it would've opened up the conspiracy box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 10:47 PM, Arakasi said: Well the NFC sure got interesting. Who is the fourth best team in the conference now? GB? Doesn’t seem like it’s Detroit or anyone from the south. SanFran, Dallas, Philly then Detroit still to me. Who are your top 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakasi Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Those 3 then a huge gap. I don’t think there is a big qualitative difference between Detroit and GB atm. Detroit will win the division ofc but I don’t trust them much atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Talk about complicated: https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/13/us/lawsuit-dropped-alleged-rape-nfl-punter-matt-araiza/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 8:22 PM, Rhom said: I am willing to entertain the notion that it could be because Brandon Staley is an idiot and has no business coaching an NFL team without a PS5 controller in his hand. Bears repeating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Rhom said: Bears repeating. Wanna take bets on if he flies back with the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 42-0 at the half? But how? The Vikes shut them out last week with a 4th string QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: 42-0 at the half? But how? The Vikes shut them out last week with a 4th string QB. Because God hates gamblers. This is splendid. Rhom and Mr. Chatywin et al. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Could a second AFC west team give up 70 points this season?!!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 36 minutes ago, Rhom said: Could a second AFC west team give up 70 points this season?!!? I almost want to turn this miserable thing on. They're at 56 with a quarter left. Also, Easton Stick is totally a porn star's name. Rhom and Jace, Extat 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebla Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Staley AND GM Tom Telesco both get the boot Quote LOS ANGELES -- After 2½ seasons highlighted by lofty expectations and routine letdowns, the Los Angeles Chargers have fired coach Brandon Staley and general manager Tom Telesco, the team announced Friday. Staley is the second Chargers head coach to be fired midseason since 1970, joining Kevin Gilbride, who was fired in 1998. DireWolfSpirit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Maybe...Herbert wasn't the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 The Chargers are an absolute embarrassment. Herbert is either a good or a very good quarterback, and he was on a rookie deal. That is a golden opportunity to win a Super Bowl, and not only did they fail to do that, they only made the playoffs once - last year's wild card collapse against JAX. Winning in the NFL is hard, but winning in the NFL if you have a top 10 (possibly top 5) quarterback on a rookie deal is actually not that hard. You have more non-qb money than any of the other contenders, and all you need to do is be as good as them and your QB will do the rest. I'm not talking about winning the Owl (that takes a bit more competence), but being a 11-12 win team each year is very doable. And instead, when Herbert is out, they lose by six touchdowns to one of the worst teams in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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