DivisionByZero Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 [quote name='Nadie' post='1565131' date='Oct 23 2008, 13.03']Why? His powers kept him eternally young, then he lost the power and aged 320 years in an instant. Granted, the physics isn't consistent, but its well within the HEROES scope of logic.[/quote] Isn't that pretty much the common eternal-life-power-taken-away trope? The power is taken away/villain is defeated and time catches up, aging the person all the years they were cheating time. Not that it makes any sense in this case, but hey, I stopped expecting Heroes to make sense a loooong time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scabbard Of the Morning Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Ugh, didn't they make us suffer through that atrocious ancient Japan storyline just to tell us the origins of Adam? And for what? And I'm still trying to figure out the nature of "sucking powers", I thought the powers were genetic? What happens when someone takes away your power? Do they rearrange your DNA to "normal"? Or am I thinking again, which is a bad idea while watching this show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurktan Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 [quote name='Nadie' post='1565131' date='Oct 23 2008, 14.03']Why? His powers kept him eternally young, then he lost the power and aged 320 years in an instant. Granted, the physics isn't consistent, but its well within the HEROES scope of logic.[/quote] Because his power isn't to stop him from aging, his power is to regenerate. So take away that power and he should just again age and have wounds heal like a normal person. He should only decompose instantly by drinking the wrong holy grail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 His regenerative power has kept his cells from collapsing and withering into dust. Regeneration goes away, cells collapse and wither into dust. This is comic book science, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scabbard Of the Morning Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 That's as absurd as saying if I lifted a car to the roof of my building with my super strength, if somebody sucks away my powers suddenly the car will return to the streets because that is where it would have been without my super strength. The first law of physics is inertia. Thing only change the state they are in when something acts upon it. Removing the regeneration power only stops the cells from regenerating, it doesn't cause them to immediately wither and die, unless something actively causes them to wither and die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaiski Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 [quote name='The Scabbard Of the Morning' post='1565229' date='Oct 23 2008, 22.01']That's as absurd as saying if I lifted a car to the roof of my building with my super strength, if somebody sucks away my powers suddenly the car will return to the streets because that is where it would have been without my super strength. The first law of physics is inertia. Thing only change the state they are in when something acts upon it. Removing the regeneration power only stops the cells from regenerating, it doesn't cause them to immediately wither and die, unless something actives causes them to wither and die.[/quote] Why think about it so seriously? Surely by now, after 40 episodes, you have seen that following laws of physics isn't writers' highest priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14th Dragon Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 [quote name='Ran' post='1565220' date='Oct 23 2008, 14.56']His regenerative power has kept his cells from collapsing and withering into dust. Regeneration goes away, cells collapse and wither into dust. This is comic book science, dude.[/quote] Ok, then why didn't all of Peter's injuries that were healed due to his regenration power reappear after the power was stolen? Oh well. The episode left me with a head-ache. I have no idea what is going on, but clearly being completely moronic is a super power and is evident in many of the Heroes. Hiro is not only able to stop time but stop development as well. He and Ando have completely stopped evolving as charecters. I keep waiting for a sublte shift to the kick-ass future Hiro, and slowly but surely I am seeing it get further away. Didn't he learn sword play and martial arts in season 1 in highly accelerated learning fashion with the kensie sword and his dad? Now he gets taken out twice by a shovel? Matt seems to change dance parteners every new season and still has not been able establish anything close to a decent game. Seriously, "I saw the future and we are soul mates?" He would have done better shwing her the turtle. Mohinder has been a drag on the show from episode one to now. So far, all I can teel about season 3 is that it is trying desperatly to remove season 2 from existence. But I do like the idea of the two factions of "Gen 1 Heroes" being split between the Company and Pinehearst. Though they better have some good reason that Pinehearst is building a rogues gallery. If it is just to have a legion of doom I will be diaspointed. Does anyone rember if Linderman was part of the Company or can we assume he was a Pinehearst guy? Since he was heavily allied with Papa Pettrelli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Comic book science. Repeat the mantra. ;) Peter's wounds didn't return because his cells were simply restored to their natural lifespan by his healing. Monroe outlived his natural lifespan six or seven times over. Comic book science! I can't be the only person who reads comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scabbard Of the Morning Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 The question is why comic book science? I thought this was a prime time show for adults? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14th Dragon Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 [quote name='Ran' post='1565306' date='Oct 23 2008, 15.52']Comic book science. Repeat the mantra. ;) Peter's wounds didn't return because his cells were simply restored to their natural lifespan by his healing. Monroe outlived his natural lifespan six or seven times over. Comic book science! I can't be the only person who reads comics.[/quote] Well if that was the case, then why did Patrelli the older not get younger as his cells repaired the damage due to aging? Like the Vulture or Ra'sal Ghul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 [quote name='14th Dragon' post='1565357' date='Oct 23 2008, 14.28']Well if that was the case, then why did Patrelli the older not get younger as his cells repaired the damage due to aging? Like the Vulture or Ra'sal Ghul?[/quote] It's like Highlander. You stop aging at the point of immortality. It's not a regressive power that takes you back to childhood. I think a number of people here need to turn in their geek cards. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14th Dragon Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 [quote name='Myrddin' post='1565365' date='Oct 23 2008, 16.33']It's like Highlander. You stop aging at the point of immortality. It's not a regressive power that takes you back to childhood. I think a number of people here need to turn in their geek cards. ;)[/quote] Now we are just mixing metaphors. Becuase as we all know from Highlander 2, after losing immortality you just go back to regular aging until you get the power back. So then Adam would not have turned to dust here. Though all and all, this is the more pointless of the plot hole quibles. More importantly, why if Petrelli the eldar had the abilty to take powers, why only now did he grab Adam's power. Would that not have been far more effective then locking him up back in the 70's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Paladin Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 [quote name='The Scabbard Of the Morning' post='1565229' date='Oct 23 2008, 15.01']That's as absurd as saying if I lifted a car to the roof of my building with my super strength, if somebody sucks away my powers suddenly the car will return to the streets because that is where it would have been without my super strength.[/quote] If, however, you just lifted the car over your head, and your super strength disappears, the car won't just float there over your head, where you left it. It will fall on top of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Scabbard, [quote]The question is why comic book science? I thought this was a prime time show for adults?[/quote] You are under the misapprehension that superhero comic books are for kids. They really, really aren't for the vast majority. They are increasingly the domain of 30-40 somethings. And you know, Star Trek was a primetime show for adults. I don't recall people bitching all that much about dilithium crystals. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurktan Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Ran, small problem with your Comic book science mantra. It doesn't work that way in comics. When Rogue touches Wolverine and steals his regenerative power he doesn't either die or immediately turn into an old man despite being over 100 years of age. You need to turn in your geek card. I'm sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogbebaba Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 [quote name='Vaiski' post='1565249' date='Oct 23 2008, 14.14']Why think about it so seriously? Surely by now, after 40 episodes, you have seen that following laws of physics isn't writers' highest priority.[/quote] :agree: yeah this isn't like an Isaak asimov story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dornish prince Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 [quote name='The Scabbard Of the Morning' post='1565351' date='Oct 23 2008, 15.26']The question is why comic book science? I thought this was a prime time show for adults?[/quote] oh, that's right. i completely forgot that comic books were only for children. *facepalm* *sets up the hatorade table* i'm thinking that some of you may be thirsty :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 [quote name='14th Dragon' post='1565383' date='Oct 23 2008, 14.41']Now we are just mixing metaphors. Becuase as we all know from Highlander 2, after losing immortality you just go back to regular aging until you get the power back. So then Adam would not have turned to dust here.[/quote] /waves hand There is no Highlander 2.... :) (Not to start a thread jack, but they are rebooting Highlander ala Casino Royale. I wonder how many ways they'll mess up continuity this time.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashamanic Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Does this mean that Adam never met the Haitian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Slurktan, [quote]Ran, small problem with your Comic book science mantra. It doesn't work that way in comics. When Rogue touches Wolverine and steals his regenerative power he doesn't either die or immediately turn into an old man despite being over 100 years of age. You need to turn in your geek card. I'm sorry.[/quote] I'm going to guess you are joking, yes? Nothing says that Papa Petrelli's powers work exactly like Rogue's, or that Adam's power worked like Wolverine's, etc. Does Parasite's power over in the DCU work using the same sort of mechanisms as Rogues? Probably not. Different universes, different comic book sciences. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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