SkaggCannibal Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I did believe it at first (I even thought "how smart of Varys to swap them, typically him!"), untill I came on this forum. Then it still took me a while to accept it because it all looked so nice. Him being educated to rule, an alternative heir for Dany, someone good for Sansa to marry. I also looked at some medieval history and there have been lots of (partly succesfull) imposters too, that took away the last doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhaenysBee Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I did believe it at first (I even thought "how smart of Varys to swap them, typically him!"), untill I came on this forum. Then it still took me a while to accept it because it all looked so nice. Him being educated to rule, an alternative heir for Dany, someone good for Sansa to marry. I also looked at some medieval history and there have been lots of (partly succesfull) imposters too, that took away the last doubts.Hehehe :D Yes... this forum knows one thing very well. And that's ruining all your illusions and positive thoughts concerning any character or plotline :D Aegon had been sort of spoiled for me before I got to that part in ADWD, so I had some amount of original doubt about him being real. But even like that, I'm still not convinced he is fake, same as I'm still not convinced he is fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 At first I was amazed and really psyched for his invasion and it slowly began to dawn on me that it was too far-fetched. I wasn't totally convinced of fAegon until I lurked on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Stannis Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I was dumbstruck.It was just so unlikely for GRRM to pull off this stuff.I didn't really think about if Aegon VI was a fake or not.I simply refused believe that he was real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeRhaegar Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 was shocked thought he was real and still believe that he is. Although now i do have doubts don't get me wrong, same way i believed that jon was ned's son no question asked, but this one is a bit more complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris999 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I was expecting a fake Aegon since the House of the Undyings, so I knew he was fake before he got introduced.Good observation. The mummers dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night's Watchmen Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 When I first read about him I was suspicious. But still glad to see an alternative to Daenerys,if a re-establisment to the Targaryen dynasty is on the way (which I fear and hope won't be coming to place). But coming to this forum, seeing all the brilliant posters, providing ideas with evidence I'm %100 sure he's an imposter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Wat Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Until I get any actual evidence of his identity, he's the real deal. I know that there are some good theories around here, but that's all they are, theories.Am I going to be crucified for this answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I believed he was real the entire time, but thought there was something off about himThen I came here and read the theory that he is (f)aegon and I buy that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I already wrote this somewhere, but from the start to the end, my main issue concerning Aegon is not whether he is fake or not (I don't actually care, I'll have some unexplainable liking for Aegon either way), but whether GRRM is in his right mind and what the hell Tyrion was thinking.See, FOUR and a half bleeding books pass without even hinting that something might be up with Jon Connington at least and then BAMM Rhaegar's son is alive. In my humble opinion to bring back a real Aegon just like that is an incredibly bold and risky thing, because his entire plotline is terribly fake and I personally cannot see how GRRM even plans to make it any authentic and based. And brining back a fake Aegon is an unnecessary additional complication to an already overcomplicated plot. Sorry.As for Tyrion, I will never ever understand how one comes to the conclusion with any previous consideration (we are in his head) that Blue haired kid is the son of Prince Rhaegar who is KNOWN to be dead, only because he has purple eyes. And once he does, HOW does he take so little interest and surprise in the question. It was just not right.Maybe it's only me...Oh and I have no idea how this Aegon is Illyrio's son, but that's my fault, I should read after things. Anyway, I don't see the motives... (Illyrio, fakeprince-ing his son, Daenerys/Drogo, Viserys... I just don't see the point, but surely, Illyrio does)I agree this Aegon thing was way out of the blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Joker Of FunLand Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I already wrote this somewhere, but from the start to the end, my main issue concerning Aegon is not whether he is fake or not (I don't actually care, I'll have some unexplainable liking for Aegon either way), but whether GRRM is in his right mind and what the hell Tyrion was thinking.See, FOUR and a half bleeding books pass without even hinting that something might be up with Jon Connington at least and then BAMM Rhaegar's son is alive. In my humble opinion to bring back a real Aegon just like that is an incredibly bold and risky thing, because his entire plotline is terribly fake and I personally cannot see how GRRM even plans to make it any authentic and based. And brining back a fake Aegon is an unnecessary additional complication to an already overcomplicated plot. Sorry.As for Tyrion, I will never ever understand how one comes to the conclusion with any previous consideration (we are in his head) that Blue haired kid is the son of Prince Rhaegar who is KNOWN to be dead, only because he has purple eyes. And once he does, HOW does he take so little interest and surprise in the question. It was just not right.Maybe it's only me...Oh and I have no idea how this Aegon is Illyrio's son, but that's my fault, I should read after things. Anyway, I don't see the motives... (Illyrio, fakeprince-ing his son, Daenerys/Drogo, Viserys... I just don't see the point, but surely, Illyrio does)Totally agree. I couldn't understand how Tyrion would know, and how little he really cared about it after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greg of House House Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Fake.I thought: "Heh. Martin is too good a writer to come up with the true heir in the fifth book." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rickon Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I believed it when I read it cause I was so focused on that I wasn't really thinking that it could be anyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Never considered him being real. I read the books too fast the first time around and didn't even really understand who exactly Jon Con was but I don't think slow reading would have changed my mind all that much. I didn't know why he was fake or why he would think he was Aegon son of Rhaegar, but I was pretty sure this was a set-up. Illyrio had a lot to do with it. I was immediately aware he was not a Targaryen supporter considering the role he played in the lives of Dany and Viserys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Given the mummer's dragon, the obviously bullshit story about the baby swap that doesn't pass the derp test, the hints on and off the page that "an" Aegon might show up, the historical Perkin Warbeck parallel and the general sketchiness of it all, I never thought he was real. The issue for me was never "is he real or isn't he?" but rather, "OK he's obviously not Aegon, so who is he really?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrannogDweller Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Until I get any actual evidence of his identity, he's the real deal. I know that there are some good theories around here, but that's all they are, theories.Am I going to be crucified for this answer? I completely agree with you.Given the mummer's dragon, the obviously bullshit story about the baby swap that doesn't pass the derp test, the hints on and off the page that "an" Aegon might show up, the historical Perkin Warbeck parallel and the general sketchiness of it all, I never thought he was real. The issue for me was never "is he real or isn't he?" but rather, "OK he's obviously not Aegon, so who is he really?" The baby swap theory is pretty plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Depends on where his story is going. Ever since that panel where GRRM said that a few people will sit the Iron Throne until the end of the story I've been convinced that Aegon (regardless of his true pedigree) will be one of those people, but will not survive long on it.Tommen and Myrcella are a few people, and possibly Jaime acting as the Hand or possibly Cersei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelican Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Fake from the start, but I liked it because I thought Martin was saying that bloodlines don't necessarily matter -- that a good leader could rise up from Flea Bottom. The Blackfyre theory doesn't allow for that idea quite so much, but I'd still kind of like to see a Flea Bottom King. I also like Aegon and hope that his demise is not too horrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinz von Licht Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I do believe he is real. And even if he's not, people need only believe that he is. It's all good with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 The baby swap theory is pretty plausible.Not really, considering that it relies on stuff that was out of Varys' control, being able to find a Valyrian-lookalike baby in Pisswater, that kid's father being willing to sell him for wine, the beneficial-in-hindsight fact that the baby's face was destroyed or that he was killed at all. The big question mark of why they couldn't just smuggle Aegon and Rhaenys out, get them to the Free Cities and not even bother with a switch.The switch is something that was retconned with the benefit of hindsight, not something that actually happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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