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Who Will the Lannister Army Follow?

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17 hours ago, A Bong of Ice and Fire said:

I see someone’s been reading the leaked season 8 scripts..

Don’t worry. They’re fake. Probably. 

They are fake. But I think that Jaime will go there, not because of fake scripts, but because to go to Winterfell, or even to White Harbor, he will have to go thru Riverlands, thru Twins, and soldiers stationed there do know him. So it's very unlikely that Jaime will manage to pass thru Riverlands, without being recognised by anyone. People will see him, recognise him, and ask him what is going on. Because by the time he will arrive to Riverlands, there will be a massive arrival of various troops to White Harbor, and unification of all lords in Riverlands, The North and The Vale, to join with those troops, under lidership pf Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen.

There's no way, that Jaime will arrive to Jon and Dany, without bringing reinforcements with him. D&D can't just forget or ignore presense of thousands Lannister's soldiers in Riverlands. So they will use them.

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1 hour ago, Megorova said:

They are fake. But I think that Jaime will go there, not because of fake scripts, but because to go to Winterfell, or even to White Harbor, he will have to go thru Riverlands, thru Twins, and soldiers stationed there do know him. So it's very unlikely that Jaime will manage to pass thru Riverlands, without being recognised by anyone. People will see him, recognise him, and ask him what is going on. Because by the time he will arrive to Riverlands, there will be a massive arrival of various troops to White Harbor, and unification of all lords in Riverlands, The North and The Vale, to join with those troops, under lidership pf Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen.

There's no way, that Jaime will arrive to Jon and Dany, without bringing reinforcements with him. D&D can't just forget or ignore presense of thousands Lannister's soldiers in Riverlands. So they will use them.

I don't think the Lannister soldiers in the Riverlands will be near the King's road to watch who is heading north, as the whole Dothraki army will use this way to go to Winterfell. They will probably remain in the castles avoiding any contact with Dany's troops. 

And if Jaime wanted to take soldiers with him, he wouln't have left his Lannister's armor in KL. He has choosen a random leather armor, a common cloak , that's not an army commander outfit.

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2 hours ago, Megorova said:

They are fake. But I think that Jaime will go there, not because of fake scripts, but because to go to Winterfell, or even to White Harbor, he will have to go thru Riverlands, thru Twins, and soldiers stationed there do know him. So it's very unlikely that Jaime will manage to pass thru Riverlands, without being recognised by anyone. People will see him, recognise him, and ask him what is going on. Because by the time he will arrive to Riverlands, there will be a massive arrival of various troops to White Harbor, and unification of all lords in Riverlands, The North and The Vale, to join with those troops, under lidership pf Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen.

There's no way, that Jaime will arrive to Jon and Dany, without bringing reinforcements with him. D&D can't just forget or ignore presense of thousands Lannister's soldiers in Riverlands. So they will use them.

I agree with you.  It makes sense, fake scripts or not.

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On 10/30/2017 at 10:27 AM, jcmontea said:

:agree:

also, i don’t think Jaime is Lord of Casterly Rock. 

So who is Lord of Casterly Rock?

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2 hours ago, Angel Eyes said:

So who is Lord of Casterly Rock?

Not Jaime. If it was Jaime he wouldn’t be leaving KL without the army. 

So if not Jaime has to be Cersei. 

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16 hours ago, Angel Eyes said:

So who is Lord of Casterly Rock?

14 hours ago, jcmontea said:

So if not Jaime has to be Cersei

Jaime and Tyrion were skipped in succession line, and as long as there are male cousins, Cersei won't be given title of Lady of Casterly Rock. After her uncle Kevan, there is his oldest son Lancell, and after him Martyn Lannister. He was in books, and in season 3 of GOT.

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38 minutes ago, Megorova said:

Jaime and Tyrion were skipped in succession line, and as long as there are male cousins, Cersei won't be given title of Lady of Casterly Rock. After her uncle Kevan, there is his oldest son Lancell, and after him Martyn Lannister. He was in books, and in season 3 of GOT.

TV version of Martyn is dead. Killed by Rickard Karstark. 

He also happens to share an actor with Tommen.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Angel Eyes said:

TV version of Martyn is dead. Killed by Rickard Karstark. 

He also happens to share an actor with Tommen.

 

 

Rickard Karstark killed Martyn's twin brother Willem, and another boy from Frey family. And Robb sent remaining Lannister hostage to Golden Tooth. In book.

He played Martyn only for 2 episodes, but seems that they thought that he had a potential for a more important role, and switched him with first Tommen (who also looked too young to marry). In GOT they had to get rid of him, thus they killed two Lannisters, instead of Lannister and Frey. Forgot about that part.

Based on what was shown about relationship between Jaime, Tommen and uncle Kevan, it doesn't look like, after Jaime was dismissed from being Kingsguard, he was given title of Casterly Rock's Lord, uncle Kevan remained its ruler. So after his death, it's either Cersei or Tyrion, based on whether she has a right, as a Queen, to cross Tyrion out of succession line, If she can legally do that, then she is the Lady of Casterly Rock. If she can't, then it belongs to Tyrion. Or directly to Crown, same as Stormlands, after they lost all their lords.

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On 11/1/2017 at 3:27 PM, valgrel said:

And if Jaime wanted to take soldiers with him, he wouln't have left his Lannister's armor in KL. He has choosen a random leather armor, a common cloak , that's not an army commander outfit.

Not necessarily.  The higher ranking officers in the Lannister army would know what Jaime looks like, even without his lion armor, especially with his golden hand. still attached.  His choice of not wearing Lannister armor is an attempt to not draw too much attention to himself on the road.  Remember, Cersei is likely going to send someone after him, or put out a bounty or something.  Heading to the remains of the Lannister forces in his armor would bring too much unnecessary trouble.    

As for the succession, Cersei comes after Jaime and Tyrion, but before any other Lannister men who aren't Tywin's legitimate progeny.  Remember, Westeros works slightly differently than it did in RL history.  Women inherit after their brothers, yes, but are not passed over for every other male relative.    

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