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Ser Scot A Ellison, 27 Jun 2013
Posted 27 Jun 2013
JRRT would think it was cool that GRRM and just about every other modern Fantasy author are inspired by him, no doubt.
edit for grammar
It's refreshing to see Tolkien's name not being misspelt as "Tolkein" for a change.
Purple Monkey DIshwasher
He would probably be proud of the legacy he left behind, though I'm not sure if he would enjoy gritty fantasy.
He would enjoy to see how he inspired him and they would sit and talk about their works. (Probably in Eagle and Chil pub with the company of wine, steak and tobacco)
Tolkien was a bit nervous about what he termed his "deplorable cultus," noting that "many young Americans are into the stories in a way I'm not". He was always puzzled why people would make a fuss of him.
I think he'd be grateful (if a bit embarrassed) by the respect Martin gives him, though I don't think he'd be overly keen on meeting up with him.
I very much doubt that Tolkien read genre fiction, so he wouldn't know GRRM.
I must respectfully disagree with the assertion that JRRT didn't read genre fiction, what little was available in England at the time he read. Edward Wyke-Smith's Marvellous Land of Snergs, with its 'table-high' title characters, is believed to have strongly influenced the incidents, themes, and depiction of Bilbo's race in The Hobbit. JRRT was also familiar with the Narnia books of his close friend CS Lewis.
JRRT read Arthurian Romances, Beowulf, the Kalevala and the Nordic Sagas. These are the well-spring from which the Fantasy genre flows.
If JRRT was still alive, he would certainly know about GRRMs writings. While he most likely would deplore the violent amoral universe portrayed in "gritty" modern Fantasy, he would be aware of it.
Just saying, if this turns into an excuse to write Real-Person-Fanfic (Slash or otherwise) I will so shut it down. (looking at you, Sci.)
I think JRRT wouldn't have agreed with GRRM's assertion that Gandalf should had stayed dead, and would likely state that GRRM did not get the story he was trying to tell.
Tolkien was apparently a bit of a fan of Isaac Asimov, so I think he would read and approve of genre fiction, but probably not on a huge scale.
I wonder would he have pointed out that if he was writing ASOIAF, Cat would have remained dead?
The impression I get of Tolkien from the fleeting things I know of his writings and comments outside LotR is that he'd have been puzzled by even having a legacy, at least in the fantasy fiction sense. But the genre and his influence on it really took off on a big scale after he died, so who knows.
Tolkien was a bit nervous about what he termed his "deplorable cultus," noting that "many young Americans are into the stories in a way I'm not". He was always puzzled why people would make a fuss of him.I think he'd be grateful (if a bit embarrassed) by the respect Martin gives him, though I don't think he'd be overly keen on meeting up with him.
I think he would be probably proud of his work's influence, as any person would likely be.
I never saw it misspelled like that. :dunno:
Posted 28 Jun 2013
I think that JRRT would be grateful for martin's praise, definetly.
But I disagree with some of you, I see no reason why Tolkien would disaprove of the violence or sexuality in Martin's works.
Tolkien, as a sincere Catholic and a fairly conservative person of his time, might well have disapproved of the sex in GRRM's books. This was the era in which D H Lawrence was banned, after all.
I wonder what Tolkien would have made of Dungeons and Dragons. (Halflings are all thieves because, what? Bilbo was a burglar? Huh? There's a whole class in D&D called 'rangers' because of the Dunedain in Lotr? Huh? Do you guys even understand what you're reading??).