Tywin Manderly Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Why didn't Lord Karstark kill Catelyn in stead of Willem Lannister and Tion Frey, since she was the one who released Jaime Lannister? Was she too hard of a target? Should he have tried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa_Stark Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I wish I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Whores Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 He probably thought in some twisted way he had a right to kill the Lannister hostages, and would get away with it. He might get chastised from Robb, but that would be all. Killing the king's own mother though... even he surely wasn't stupid enough to think that would be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksnider05 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think killing the King's own mother would get you staked out in the open and fed to Gray Wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I wish I did. Then a much more painful fate would have fallen upon you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noneofyourbusiness Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Why didn't Lord Karstark kill Catelyn in stead of Willem Lannister and Tion Frey, since she was the one who released Jaime Lannister? Was she too hard of a target? Should he have tried? She probably was too hard of a target, but also his motivating idea was to shed Lannister blood because it was Lannisters who killed his sons, and this was an exchange of two sons for two sons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Then a much more painful fate would have fallen upon you.Grey Wind :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa_Stark Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 >:3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywolf2375 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 No, he shouldn't have tried. His children were taken away, he took away the Lannister children. Catelyn wasn't the one who killed his kids, it was Jaime so for him the revenge was at the Lannisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy the Ruin Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Grey Wind :-)yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamSongs Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Jaime killed his son, so the most vulnerable targets were the young Lannister cousins. Killing Catelyn would have huge repercussions as King Robb's mother and Hoster Tully's daughter; he would have antagonized his King and the Lord of the Riverlands. Killing Lannisters does create any division within the forces. Obviously, this plan backfired on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 lmao Jaime killed his sons in battle Karstark was a big baby, I would of been pissed at Catelyn too if I was him but what he did was like a 12 year old throwing a temper tantrum and no He shouldn't of killed his Kings mom :lmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymoon Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Catelyn didn't get punished too harshly so Karstark thought he could kill Robb's hostage with impunity. Robb discredited himself first when he broke his vows to Walder Frey, later when he failed to treat Catelyn as a true prisoner – basically showing his men that he was still a boy at heart.Also with the Freys leaving, Rickard Karstark certainly believed that Robb wouldn’t risk losing the support of yet another house. He didn’t believe Robb would go as far as to execute a would-be ally and kinsman no less. Edit: To answer the question, he wouldn't have killed Catelyn because he was certain to get executed for it. His goal wasn't execution, but vengeance and it was Jaime who killed his sons, not Catelyn. Since Robb showed himself "weak" in regards to Jeyne and Catelyn, Rickard believed he could get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I wish I did. robb would've fucked you up the arse with a bloody spear and then left you for Grey wind :P you big baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 At least he could "justify" his actions by saying that the Lannisters were the enemy. Killing Cat would just be murdering his King's mother. She was not responsible for his sons' deaths in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynned Lannistark Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Killing a Stark/Tully as a revenge for Lannister killing his children is sort of counter productive.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Whores Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Killing a Stark/Tully as a revenge for Lannister killing his children is sort of counter productive....Yeah not even Cersei would be that stupid, and we all know that that's saying a lot based off her performance in aFfC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Catelyn didn't get punished too harshly so Karstark thought he could kill Robb's hostage with impunity. Robb discredited himself first when he broke his vows to Walder Frey, later when he failed to treat Catelyn as a true prisoner – basically showing his men that he was still a boy at heart. Also with the Freys leaving, Rickard Karstark certainly believed that Robb wouldn’t risk losing the support of yet another house. He didn’t believe Robb would go as far as to execute a would-be ally and kinsman no less. Actually, I have to disagree. Karstark realized that killing the Lannister kids was going to be big trouble (regardless of the mouth he gave Robb at his capture), otherwise he wouldn't have made sure that most of his own healthy bannermen fled while Karstark and company were doing the murders. Not only did he send his bannermen off in the dark, but he sent them off hunting the Kingslayer, not to return to his KIng and captivity, but to have Jaime killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Cersei? Stupid? Whatever could you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think that he shouldn't killed her, he should asked for royal justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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