Pearlthegirl Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Conspiracy Theory: what if the movie REALLY IS a US Government plot to get that little Unicorn Tamer to do something stupidly retaliatory so we can justifiably go in there and Spread Some Freedom?! Operation Haircut LibertyAnybody remember the beginning of Real Genius? Dropped a bomb in Saddam's lap, it did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igziabeher Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Do I think it should be censored? No. Do I think it will be a great film? No. Will it incite a world war? Probably not. Would I laugh my ass off if James Franco got taken hostage or assassinated for it? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 So the question is should we set aside one of our fundamental rights for fear of what might be the insane reaction of a lunatic. Nope. You see even if Kim Jong-un were to say shoot down a passenger plane in retaliation the fault would not lie with the movie or movie makers, it would lie with the lunatic who shot down a fucking plane because his feelings were hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I'm sure we all remember the dire consequences of American film-makers mocking the North Korean leader mercilessly and then fictionally killing him off in Team America... We got one of the greatest comic monologues in film history. And I'm not even kidding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iCWzpDpKs (Not Safe for Work Language) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixodes Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 North Korea has been kidnapping people, killing folks, and sinking ships long before Seth Rogan ever considered doing a movie about them. The world has decided that this was OK and not to press the issue. I really can't see how anyone can point a finger at a movie and assign some type of preemptive blame. I find it offensive that I have to consider censoring a fellow citizen's free speech in case some powermad idiot decides to harm innocent people because he can't take a joke. Maybe if this individual decides that an airliner goes down to soothe his fractured ego then that individual should get a taste of deterrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Targdust Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Isnt it a bit like "dont wear that slutty outfit or else youll get raped!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 If NK doesn't like the movie, fine. They can ban it from their country like they ban everything else. But that's all they can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Gimp Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Shouldn't the North Koreans view this film as a wonderful representation of the US government's duplicitousness and treachery? It's probably the fact that Kim won't be portrayed as a shining sun-god that really rankles them, rather than the premise of the CIA trying to off him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Gimp Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I'm torn on this. Ignoring the political angle for a second, one of the things that makes this interesting is that the film is portraying a plot to kill a real life individual without that individual's consent. Consider, if you will, a similar film in which the target of the assassination attempt was instead a famous sportsman or singer, and that film was made and distributed without the prior consent of the target. Would that be OK? Does the target have a right to object to being used in the plot of a film like that? ST They have every right to object, and try to rally people to their cause. But should they be allowed to use force against the filmmakers? Absolutely not. We're talking about the ruler of, arguably, the most perverse and cruel state in the world anyway. Fuck his feelings, or any politician's for that matter. If it was a film about assassinating Bono or something I would see your point. Though that would actually be pretty funny too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFSalami Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I would pay double the money to see a movie about the assassination of Bono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 So. It appears that North Korea has hacked Sony's website, brought it down, and has stolen 5 unreleased Christmas movies and put them on the internet. Sony could lose millions on the movies. And as of today they have still warned employees not to use their computers or e-mail. And when asked about it, a North Korean official said "wait and see" when asked if North Korea was behind the hacking. Apparently 82 pieces of code with a North Korean IP address were found in hacked accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Obligatory... http://s1336.photobucket.com/user/Lumpy67/media/north-korea-is-best-korea_zps0adf055b.jpg.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castel Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 So. It appears that North Korea has hacked Sony's website, brought it down, and has stolen 5 unreleased Christmas movies and put them on the internet. Sony could lose millions on the movies. And as of today they have still warned employees not to use their computers or e-mail. And when asked about it, a North Korean official said "wait and see" when asked if North Korea was behind the hacking. Apparently 82 pieces of code with a North Korean IP address were found in hacked accounts. Holy shit... North Korea and internet pirates on the same side. What horrors and atrocities will come of this alliance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 There is some suspicion the Chinese helped.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castel Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 There is some suspicion the Chinese helped.... Not gonna lie;maybe my perception of NK's capabilities has been tainted by the evil media, but my immediate reaction was:"that makes more sense". I also can't believe that "Annie" was the target and result of an international cooperative sabotage operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Wonder what movies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 How decisive and merciless of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 News report: http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/north-korea-tells-sony-pictures-just-wait-and-see-after-cyberattack-1.2856359 About North Korean hackers: http://recode.net/2014/12/01/heres-what-we-know-about-north-koreas-cyberwar-army/ Digital copies of unreleased Sony films "Annie," "Mr. Turner," "Still Alice" and "To Write Love on Her Arms" -- as well as the war movie "Fury," which is currently playing in theaters -- appeared online November 27. Later that day, a person claiming to be "the boss of G.O.P." emailed reporters with links to purported stolen internal data.http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/u-s-officials-are-investigating-north-korea-sony-movie-hack-n259021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 As I said in the OP, Castel, I could not figure out the appropriate word to use in the title of this thread. Absolutely no doubt freedom of speech is a keystone of Western democracy. I just happen to think the leaders of North Korea are bat shit crazy. I think it will take all the fun out of the film if the North Koreans decide, say, to shoot down a US commercial jet because it got too close to North Korean airspace. North Korea hates the USA. That's why I used the example of Canadians being offended if they made a comedy about assassinating the Canadian PM. The guys could have made the exact same film and changed the name of the country, for example, they didn't have to go out of their way to be so direct. I could see a film about the CIA sending someone to assassinate the PM of Canada happening. I envision an Austin Powers-type comedy. I'm not Canadian, and don't know many Canadians. But I find it hard to imagine a sensible and not-cartoonish people getting worked up over that. And when asked about it, a North Korean official said "wait and see" when asked if North Korea was behind the hacking. Wow. This seems like something a highschooler would do. Especially the 'wait and see' part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castel Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I'm curious Fragile Bird, do you consider this an example of the sort of consequences you were worried about? I mean, it's obviously not as serious as some of the other examples but do you feel like this is the sort of thing they would have been avoiding or is it so small-potatoes that you don't really care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.