Tywin Manderly Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 That may be Lady Nym's idea of vengeance, but it is certainly not Doran's. At least, not at this point in time. I think you are mistaken. That is indeed his idea of vengeance. And the time has almost come. So many people get the impression that Doran is a nice guy. He's not. As his revenge Doran Martell wants to destroy Tywin Lannister's legacy i.e. reduce House Lannister to a bunch of poor powerless widely-mocked irrelevant commoners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelex Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 No "Vengeance on the Lannisters" is the longest running joke of this entire series It never fails to fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow4President Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Not sure if this has been mentioned, but even as someone who is by no means fond of the Lannisters, how does revenge on Oberyn really seem right? I mean, he lost in the closest thing to a fair fight any other character gets throughout the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 They could attack Casterly Rock :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 By the end of aDwD, Lannisters are in their weakest moment. I don't know what type of revenge Martells want, but Lannisters are pretty bad rn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingoftheSevenKingdoms Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 In the end, Ellaria had the right of it--all the folks responsible for Elia and the children's deaths are already killed. Oberyn killing Gregor and giving him an excruciating end is the closest the Martells ever got to revenge, imo. And to be honest, it was revenge, just not near anywhere close to what Doran (and presumably Oberyn) wanted. Tyrion robbed them of their real target. That says it all really. Theoretically getting Arianne married to Aegon and becoming queen could be seen as restoring what they lost, but everyone who actually wronged them is dead now. :bowdown: :agree: :cool4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Of The Night Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I heard a crazy theory somewhere that Oberyn had already poisoned tywin.it was a poison that kills slowly, and that's why he had the shits when tyrion killed him and why he stank so bad at his funeral.Now that tywins dead, Doran won't be able to destroy him, but he can still ruin his legacy. Tywins legacy was everything to him. Dorans goal now will be to take casterly rock and iron throne away from his family and make sure the histories remember his insest children and deceitful nature, rather then his accomplishments.Thats really the only course they can take now. Granted Cersei and company are seaming to be doing a good job on their own at that. Other then getting the throne by supporting a targaryan, what else can they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Lannister_ Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 They can have Tyrion, the demented traitor.But if they touch anyone else with the Lannister name.... There is no corner, no crevice, no cave in the world that could hide them from my wrath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Nymeria and Tyene would surely love to kill Cersei, Tommen, Myrcella, and (presumably) Jaime.Doran is weakening fast, and may not be able to restrain them. I don't have the impression that Arianne wants to kill the children, but she may be unable to save them. I could imagine Nym and Tyene gleefully killing them in front of Cersei, if they held her prisoner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Well, according to the Dornish master plan, Doran already made some moves. He's connected to the Brave Companions, that took Jaime's hand, and Qyburn, that is Cersei's closest "ally". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denny717 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Well, according to the Dornish master plan, Doran already made some moves. He's connected to the Brave Companions, that took Jaime's hand, and Qyburn, that is Cersei's closest "ally". Yeah you guys should look up the dornish master plan on you tube. A lot of it is far fetched, but some of it makes a lot of sense and really makes you think. But there 4 different videos each 10 minutes long, and the farther you go the more ridiculous it sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastydream Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Indeed. Elia, daughter of Oberyn, will be legitimised, marry Aegon and Westeros will have a Queen called Elia Martell. As it should have been. Alhtough I'd enjoy Arriane x Aegon Having a queen Elia Martell would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squab Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Aegon with dornish support will dispose the lannisters from kl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chebyshov Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Elia+Aegon is my ship (Arianne can keep her birthright and maybe marry a Yronwood to ensure Dornish unity).But to the OP, and this point, their vengeance has been robbed from them. So now it's all about removing the Lannisters from power. Doran sent Oberyn to Kl to learn the strengths and weaknesses of Joffrey's rule. Now Nym is sent in his place to do the same with Tommen, while Tyene tries to figure out how the HS and the Faith Militant will influence the politics to come. As of now, Doran wants to place Dany on the throne with Quent beside her. When that particular news makes it back to Dorne, their path forward will be less clear, though more interesting for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not in the face Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I think they are still too far south to do anything meaningful on their own. They need a push from either Dany or Aegon to really hit the field and leave Dorne. I personally think they will be the only army left to fight the Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed Lannister Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 They have celebrated the demise of Tywin in their own way though his death was not by their hand ........The only thing left to get revenge on is the legacy of tywin which are Tyrion,jaime and cersei,tommen and myrcella which they can accomplish by killing them all through their scheming of revenge....but it will be costly (oberyn,Quentyn as examples,) more likely candidates to die in the revenge efforts could be arianne,lady Nym or tyene sand as some will be out of the safety the borders that Dorne accord's them while another is hunting the renowned dangerous man in dorne with the am of covering up the scheming against house lannister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimim Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 They could attack Casterly Rock :dunno: I like! Doran has something long term in mind for the Lannisters, and Tywin's death didn't put an end to it. Spears in that dream struck me, too, as did the darkness of people surrounding Jaime, darkness of locale. Very much indicative of a dark, long-term, hidden plan, Doran's plan. Serve it cold. EDIT: I think they'll murder Tommen and Myrcella as return for deaths of Elia's children. imo Doran is more than capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Arthur Hightower Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 The question is simple..... will the Martells have the laugh and get revenge on the lions from Casterly Rock? Will they even eliminate the family itself? or will this debt remain unpaid? Doran seems like the kind of guy who waits until the perfect opportunity to strike. He will make his move with Aegon but still not sure. Thoughts? The Dornish (with the exception of Ellaria, the only Dornish character I actually like) are a bunch of amoral warmongering psychos. Doran realises that innocents will suffer if he does go to war, but he will almost certainly do it anyway (at some point, for someone) and has no good reason to do so: his lack of foresight is the only thing to blame for Oberyn's and Quentyn's deaths, Elia's killers are all dead. I'd like to recommend my all time favourite analysis on the subject: http://meereeneseblot.wordpress.com/2014/03/23/water-gardens-and-blood-oranges-part-iv-it-ends-in-blood/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tiger Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 What we have here is a continuous retarded cycle of revenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPolly Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 What we have here is a continuous retarded cycle of revenge. Exactly. Ellaria is the sole voice of sanity. And it is pretty clear that, for all his "caution" and/or "procrastination" that Doran is on the wrong team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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