The Wolves Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 This pleases King Robert. :) ETA: another thing I want; hopefully a detailed account of the Trident, like did Rhaegar dismount or not...I know we got a picture of Rhaegar and Robert fighting on the Trident and they were not mounted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Hodor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ygrain Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I know we got a picture of Rhaegar and Robert fighting on the Trident and they were not mounted. The same for Dany's vision - Rhaegar couldn't have sunk to his knees if he was on horseback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I only hope Rhaegar did not dismounted because Robert fell. If he did so, I will bring him back and punch him on the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ygrain Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I only hope Rhaegar did not dismounted because Robert fell. If he did so, I will bring him back and punch him on the face. Which one? :P Rhaegar fought honourably, Rhaegar died. A honourable man would dismount. I believe that he did (but I guess you know I do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Which one? :P Rhaegar fought honourably, Rhaegar died. A honourable man would dismount. I believe that he did (but I guess you know I do) "Honor is a horse!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearQueen87 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I only hope Rhaegar did not dismounted because Robert fell. If he did so, I will bring him back and punch him on the face. That's what I was getting at. Did Rheagar dismount because Robert fell? Be nice to have a full description of the battle between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 That's what I was getting at. Did Rheagar dismount because Robert fell? Be nice to have a full description of the battle between them. I can totally picture that as having happened. Mostly due to Jorah's "Rhaegar fought nobly, Rhaegar fought honourably" part. Jorah was at the Trident, after all. If he didn't see the battle himself, he migth have spoken to people who did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I know we got a picture of Rhaegar and Robert fighting on the Trident and they were not mounted. They actually are mounted in the worldbook picture. That doesn't mean they were mounted for the whole fight of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow4President Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 It's my understanding (and I am by no means a medieval warfare expert) that knights actually dismounted before major fights. Horses were used to get them into position quickly, but to truly be effective, the tin cans needed to dismount before any sustained fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeimantus Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 It's my understanding (and I am by no means a medieval warfare expert) that knights actually dismounted before major fights. Horses were used to get them into position quickly, but to truly be effective, the tin cans needed to dismount before any sustained fighting. And I imagine Robert would prefer to be off horseback, seeing as he wields a hammer. A sword could still be effective when on horseback, but a hammer would probably be unwieldy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 They actually are mounted in the worldbook picture. That doesn't mean they were mounted for the whole fight of course.Thanks my bad I thought they were dismounted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 so, they were mounted. Can I punch Rhaegar now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow4President Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 And I imagine Robert would prefer to be off horseback, seeing as he wields a hammer. A sword could still be effective when on horseback, but a hammer would probably be unwieldy. Think that only applies to shorter swords. Regular broadswords were too unwieldy to wield from horseback (once again continuing with my understanding of medeival warfare, which is far from complete). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeimantus Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Think that only applies to shorter swords. Regular broadswords were too unwieldy to wield from horseback (once again continuing with my understanding of medeival warfare, which is far from complete). That's what I was referring to. I don't know what exactly Rhaegar wielded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ygrain Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Think that only applies to shorter swords. Regular broadswords were too unwieldy to wield from horseback (once again continuing with my understanding of medeival warfare, which is far from complete). I wouldn't bet on historical accuracy in the use of weaponry, GRRM has had some blunders here (drawing greatsword over the shoulder etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I wouldn't bet on historical accuracy in the use of weaponry, GRRM has had some blunders here (drawing greatsword over the shoulder etc) ...arrows being able to travel 700 ft up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 ...arrows being able to travel 700 ft up. They are magical arrows ;) There's a magical wind causing them to fly higher :p Or something like that. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ygrain Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 They are magical arrows ;) There's a magical wind causing them to fly higher :P Or something like that. :) I'd place my bets on magical reinforced composite bows :-) - Seriously: I had a student who participated in modern archery competitions (and I don't think that a medieval archer would recognize the equipment he used as a bow) and he claimed that several hundred metres is not a problem, only accuracy, but if he did manage to hit someone, the arrow would still pass through. /disclaimer/ I have only his word for this, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Crow Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I'd place my bets on magical reinforced composite bows :-) - Seriously: I had a student who participated in modern archery competitions (and I don't think that a medieval archer would recognize the equipment he used as a bow) and he claimed that several hundred metres is not a problem, only accuracy, but if he did manage to hit someone, the arrow would still pass through. /disclaimer/ I have only his word for this, though. I have shot longbow for over 20 years and would say that so far as shooting at the Wall goes we need to fall back on GRRM's reported admission after seeing the HBO set, that he made the Wall too high. With a good longbow you might just be able to coax the arrow to reach that high but its unlikely to have the energy to do much damage. When shooting at a comparative distance on the ground you shoot high and rely on the velocity as it comes down to give it the necessary punch. Robin Hood tricks like picking out yonder knave in the red plume are totally impractical at a distance. What you do is simply loft as many shafts into the air as ever you can and rely on the resulting arrow storm to take out a respectable proportion of the massed ranks in front rather than any particular individual, although obviously enough if you take a particular banner as an aiming mark, some of the shafts might hit him. At close range its a matter of hand-eye co-ordination rather than careful aim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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