Mexal Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Just now, Fragile Bird said: Erm...and why did they turn this into a tv show? I still like it, as different as it is from the book. I just think they need a bigger narrative drive so that the episodes don't feel so meandering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Okay, so I pretty much loathed the book, but mostly for reasons that might not be translated in the tv adaptation. Can anyone on here tell me if this show is worth watching for someone who thought the book a hollow exercise of authorial ego? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denstorebog Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, Myshkin said: Okay, so I pretty much loathed the book, but mostly for reasons that might not be translated in the tv adaptation. Can anyone on here tell me if this show is worth watching for someone who thought the book a hollow exercise of authorial ego? Well, no. Because the TV series is an attepmt at carrying the cynicism of the books over into a visual medium, but adding gratuitous underwear nudity and sophomore humour in order to make the nihilism of the books seem so very sexy. I don't hate the TV series, but I regard it as a failed attempt at mainstreaming something that, to begin with, was all about subverting fantasy tropes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Book readers, please. She can't be dead, can she? How? Isn't she a major figure in the books, a required figure in the books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 First Joffrey, now this douche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I think that was a lot better episode than previous. 1. So Eliza was Jane? Or was Jane merely mind-controlling Eliza, like the Beast did with what's his name? 2. Didn't Jane originally go to Fillory with a group? The Beast could be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I tend to beware of this thread cause I'm really enjoying the show but have noticed I'm in the minority here ! But damn, really liked that last one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Well that was surprising. And I've read the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 28 minutes ago, Mexal said: Well that was surprising. And I've read the books. I haven't, but I've read the Wikipedia summary. I thought Jane was a pretty damn integral character in the story. Like, she manipulated characters to achieve the end result. How does this happen without her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Fragile Bird said: I haven't, but I've read the Wikipedia summary. I thought Jane was a pretty damn integral character in the story. Like, she manipulated characters to achieve the end result. How does this happen without her? With less manipulation? It wasn't overt in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterOJ Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 In the end, this is still a show about magic. I'm sure they can (and probably will) pull out some sort of deus ex machina to bring her back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altherion Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 12 hours ago, Fragile Bird said: I haven't, but I've read the Wikipedia summary. I thought Jane was a pretty damn integral character in the story. Like, she manipulated characters to achieve the end result. How does this happen without her? A layer of the story would be lost without her as well as pieces of the latter books, but she's not truly critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I find the show much better when it focuses on Fillory and the Beast rather than the daily lives of the Brakebills kids. The second half of this episode was much better than the previous few episodes. Eliza actually being Jane was no surprise. The Beast going Gallagher on her was. If it was really her and not some plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ashes Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Well that was unexpected; I'll be paying more attention. I've come to like Quentin and Alice well enough (A more so than Q), still indifferent to Penny, (the candy wrapper didn't make me go 'awwwww" or anything), and am wondering whether Sultry-but-Damaged will team up with Julia. Also, I think this show has something against cute animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 No Margo..... boooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Sooooooooooo.......does all this shit happen in the books? Or have the producers turned it into a sort of American Horror Story light? I have a theory about the author. He must be the guy who started the theory on the internet that Harry Potter imagined all the Hogwarts stories because it was the way an abused child who gets locked under the stairs escapes what he's suffering. With last week's program and this week's things have been getting better and better, but they sure took a creepy turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedGhost Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 The last two episodes have been fantastic. I don't think that Eliza was actually Jane, I think SpaceChampion is correct that that was just a body she was controlling like the Beast was controlling the guy that killed her. (Damn, these past two episodes have been brutal, starting with the rabbit scene). If Eliza was actually Jane, why would she have appeared as young Jane when talking to Quentin early in the season? That makes me want to go back and rewatch those early episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovely Lyanna Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Surprisingly I am liking this. I had not read the books, but I thought I would check it out. I was pretty meh at first, but it is growing on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 That was dark. Loved the episode though. Felt kind of unsettled afterwards and had trouble sleeping. I guess that means it made an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 What does the button do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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