Ramsay's 20 Good Men Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 You must be kiding, I can't believe you missed such an opportunity. Whatever floats your goat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TepidHands Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I hate.to.sound like a nanny, but all You kids making baad jokes need to chevre off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I've been part of a particular online community for over 10 years. It's full of almost entirely liberal-minded feminists. Part of why I got into the show was the people there talking about it all the time and I knew if these people who shared many of my beliefs and interests liked it, well, it was worth a shot. I fell in love with S1 and read all five books before S2 started. I went from completely newbie in that community to Maester about the show/books. I earned those links of my chain that I forged. It wasn't always a place of hive mind, but the discussions were reasoned and measured and fair. Then this season happened. When UUU aired some of us immediately lost it and instead of finding allies, we were laughed at and insulted and subjected to condescending gifsets. I couldn't believe it. One of the main premises of that site was an abhorrence to rape and rape culture, so from them of all people it was a massive betrayal. I felt like Robb Stark and Catelyn when the Rains of Castamere started playing. I was like looking around being all "Seriously?" and just got stabbed when I thought I was safe. I mean, I get that not everyone is going to feel as strongly as I did. I understand that and I'm jealous of people who can look past the stuff that I can't unsee. I wish this could be unproblematic popcorn prestige tv for me. But I don't insult them, so I don't know why it's not a two-way street. I can't even go into the non-GOT threads on that board without feeling dirty now. I don't expect people to be like "wow that's a great point and now I see it your way" but I don't want to constantly be insulted because I think a non-book rape of a main character is bad. Or several of them and/or attempted rapes, as the tally stands now. These threads are the only places I feel sane. I don't hate people who aren't as upset as me, but I hate the disgust flung in my direction. UUU was a nightmare that still resonates with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodsteel bitterraven Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 So I just found out that Jon Snow will return. My first question is why did Kit Harrington keep lying about not coming back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alayne's Shadow. Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 So I just found out that Jon Snow will return. My first question is why did Kit Harrington keep lying about not coming back? It's ridiculous because it's not like they were going to be able to hide his return. Lying makes it worse. I never bought it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Northern Scholar Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 It's ridiculous because it's not like they were going to be able to hide his return. Lying makes it worse. I never bought it though. It's going to end up looking like a mess. Should have just stuck with "no comment" or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 So I just found out that Jon Snow will return. My first question is why did Kit Harrington keep lying about not coming back? Because he was told to? Anyways, as I said a gazillion times, I never for a split second believed any of this 'deader than dead not ever coming back' :bs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's 20 Good Men Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Because he was told to? Anyways, as I said a gazillion times, I never for a split second believed any of this 'deader than dead not ever coming back' :bs: Exactly. The fact they told people to lie is pretty bad, though. I mean, we were going to find out sooner or later that they have lied, and no one in their right minds will ever believe them again. What about Stannis, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasanil Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 They don't like Stannis, so he's probably dead for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 It's going to end up looking like a mess. Should have just stuck with "no comment" or something along those lines. Actually, the proper response would have been "those who have read the books would know the answer". That would have made people read and keep the GoT interest going on until next year. But of course, that would have made people read... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Exactly. The fact they told people to lie is pretty bad, though. I mean, we were going to find out sooner or later that they have lied, and no one in their right minds will ever believe them again. What about Stannis, then? That's a good question. I think he's dead though. I think the line about not showing it 'because it would have been gratuitous' is of course more bullshit, and that the reason they didn't show it was to cloud the issue [of Jon's deadness] further. But given how Stannis was portrayed from s 2 until now, I honestly hope he is dead and gone for good. I mean, can you imagine how much more the character would be fucked up if he were alive? Defeated in the most pathetic way by the show's fave villain, wife took her own life, only child and sole heir burnt at the stake because they were going to miss a meal. I don't want to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Writhen Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Talisa Maegyr would make an epic LSH. Hell they should just have all the regulars play different chars next season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Actually, the proper response would have been "those who have read the books would know the answer". That would have made people read and keep the GoT interest going on until next year. But of course, that would have made people read... Yeah, good point. Imagine how the logistics would be complicated, having to burn all those who dared... :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 these people are the same ones that told us all last offseason that Sansa was going to kick ass and be empowered, "Dark Sansa", "Darth Sansa"... and what we got was "Rape Victim Sansa". Do not believe anything they say, trust the cast sightings and set sightings and that will be spoiler enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGBeyondAsshai Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 So I just found out that Jon Snow will return. My first question is why did Kit Harrington keep lying about not coming back? They were trying to have clever promo and he did as he was told. He was really into it lol-but he's young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's 20 Good Men Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 They were trying to have clever promo and he did as he was told. He was really into it lol-but he's young. He won't be a boy forever. And winter is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I wish Talisa would return as Stoneheart. It would be the nail in the coffin. That would be perfect. How many ways can they diss Cat. Too bad Olly couldn't get in on this somehow. While he was stabbing Jon, he could have said, "Lady Catelyn sends her regards." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Btw, completely forgot to ask... how has this Jon is coming back leaked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Everyone is spotting him around Belfast? Someone spotted Rory McCann and Jerome Flynn at an airport, too: https://mobile.twitter.com/smcintosh1982/status/621214655457927168 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Northern Scholar Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Btw, completely forgot to ask... how has this Jon is coming back leaked? Spotted in Belfast right around the time the cast (apparently) did script reads, I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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