BlackwaterPark Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 If D&D don't want to create a big plot hole they must not have overseen this http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Arthur_Dayne?file=BookOfBrothersDayne.jpg and thus Gerold still has to be killed. I believe Gerold is the one missing since, if I remember correctly, Oswell Whent was the one on his knees. And we all noticed Arthur Dayne fighting with Dawn in one hand and a random ass sword on the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Yorick Ampersand Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 They cut him from the show because having a dual wielding Dayne is cooler (in their stupid minds). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke317 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 The white bull has been cut. Just like we only had 6 northerners instead of 7... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Smith Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I like the idea, but why is it important that Gerold Hightower be in that scene? For me it's beside the point; focus should be on Lyanna and Jon. I couldn't care less that there were two Kingsguard rather than three in today's episode. Made no difference to the scene as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Harbors Wrath Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Hes not. He's cut. Abandon hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevasTra82 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Gerold Hightower serves no purpose in the show and is not relevant...hence he's been cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor's Aunt Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 5 hours ago, BlackwaterPark said: If D&D don't want to create a big plot hole they must not have overseen this http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Arthur_Dayne?file=BookOfBrothersDayne.jpg and thus Gerold still has to be killed. Oh, yeah, big plothole, very big. Some text you only can read on a still.... feeding an other giant would have been to expensive, so Hightower is out. Get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Veldt Roarer Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Ser Gerold wasn't completely cut, he was explicitly mentioned in this episode. Maybe in the show continuity he wasn't at the ToJ, maybe he was slain by the Trident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 19 minutes ago, Ferocious Veldt Roarer said: Ser Gerold wasn't completely cut, he was explicitly mentioned in this episode. Maybe in the show continuity he wasn't at the ToJ, maybe he was slain by the Trident. From the picture of the book of KG, he died at ToJ. Cutting him in the same episode they mentioned him, doesn't make sense at all. Why not cut the other KG, but keep Gerold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 19 minutes ago, Ferocious Veldt Roarer said: Ser Gerold wasn't completely cut, he was explicitly mentioned in this episode. Maybe in the show continuity he wasn't at the ToJ, maybe he was slain by the Trident. From the picture of the book of KG, he died at ToJ. Cutting him in the same episode they mentioned him, doesn't make sense at all. Why not cut the other KG, but keep Gerold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerevanin Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 hour ago, TheRevanchist said: Cutting him in the same episode they mentioned him, doesn't make sense at all. Why not cut the other KG, but keep Gerold? This tbh. I suppose that he might be inside the tower by Lyanna's door or something like that so we can have another fight in a future episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naik2902 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 WTF ..in tv show rheagar only left 2 people behind to protect lyanna during wartime ? Martin should have written it something like 3 KG against 9 northener . made it more realistic. i dont undestand why Ned will just go with 6 northener to fight and rescue her sister. Ned would have lost his life if there were 20 good men at TOJ. its more real to see Oswell killing 1, Gerold killing 1 and Arthur taking down 5 northeners to show his deadly display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerys Blackfyre Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 48 minutes ago, Nerevanin said: This tbh. I suppose that he might be inside the tower by Lyanna's door or something like that so we can have another fight in a future episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~DarkHorse~ Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 3 hours ago, TheRevanchist said: From the picture of the book of KG, he died at ToJ. Cutting him in the same episode they mentioned him, doesn't make sense at all. Why not cut the other KG, but keep Gerold? I don't know why they made a big deal of mentioning him, if they were just going to cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messem Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 4 hours ago, TheRevanchist said: From the picture of the book of KG, he died at ToJ. Cutting him in the same episode they mentioned him, doesn't make sense at all. It's a nod to book readers. "Yeah, we know he existed. We didn't have him in the ToJ scene for reasons. Get over it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artos Cold Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 3 hours ago, naik2902 said: WTF ..in tv show rheagar only left 2 people behind to protect lyanna during wartime ? Martin should have written it something like 3 KG against 9 northener . made it more realistic. i dont undestand why Ned will just go with 6 northener to fight and rescue her sister. Ned would have lost his life if there were 20 good men at TOJ. its more real to see Oswell killing 1, Gerold killing 1 and Arthur taking down 5 northeners to show his deadly display. Thank you! This is how it should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErasmusF Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 How do we know Ned knew there were any KG at the Tower of Joy? We don't even know why he went there. Presumably someone told him Rhaegar was holing up there before the Trident. Apparently Ned was expecting Dayne there. When he didn't find him, he didn't have much of a reason to suspect all 3 missing KG (presuming he knew there were still 3 living KG) were at the ToJ. I think he would have thought it more likely that they were on Dragonstone with Viserys and Daenarys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcarin Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 9 hours ago, Mr Smith said: I like the idea, but why is it important that Gerold Hightower be in that scene? For me it's beside the point; focus should be on Lyanna and Jon. I couldn't care less that there were two Kingsguard rather than three in today's episode. Made no difference to the scene as a whole. So in your opinion it doesnt matter if everyone was cut except Ned and lyanna, and well lets also cut Benjen cos he is not important only went missing, and lets also cut, well everyone except anyone who fights the last fight SO unimportant right? Its funny cos if i remember they have show written that Gerald dies in the TOJ back in season 4 or something? Irony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hairy bear Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 5 hours ago, naik2902 said: WTF ..in tv show rheagar only left 2 people behind to protect lyanna during wartime ? Martin should have written it something like 3 KG against 9 northener . made it more realistic. i dont undestand why Ned will just go with 6 northener to fight and rescue her sister. Ned would have lost his life if there were 20 good men at TOJ. If Rhaegar had left Lyanna with 20 good men, it's likely that they'd have surrendered to Robert or Eddard after the Trident, or after the siege of Storm's End ended. They would have hurried to deliver Lyanna and her son to the winners hoping to earn their good graces. Rhaegar needed someone who could trust completely, and those were the sworn brothers of the Kignsguard. Also, the TOJ was in Dornish territory, so the rebels could only reach there after defeating anyone else. 20 guards more wouldn't have changed anything. Now, why Eddard only went there with 6 men, when he was commanding a huge army at the time? The text strongly suggests that those six were all personal friends and of proven loyalty. All of them were Northmen, and many of them had ties to the Starks. It seems likely that Eddard suspected what he would find at the TOJ, and wanted people he could trust with a secret as big as the existence of Rhaegar's secret heir. Possibly Eddard did not trust anyone else than those 6 friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Edd of House Tollet Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Perhaps Ned already suspected that Lyanna went with Rhaegarby by her own wish. Maybe he was already 100% sure, since it's possible that Benjen already knew it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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