Slurktan Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 9:11 AM, Jaxom 1974 said: Miyagi-verse...it's a thing! (The remake is like a bad JJ Abrams Trek reboot, except the creators of the later show continuations don't try to shoehorn the movie into established canon...) The remake is pretty bad, except Jackie Chan actually does a really good job in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I would assume that S6 All Valley would be this Spoiler Daniels son facing off against Kenny? They would be in high school by then so age appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, dbunting said: I would assume that S6 All Valley would be this Hide contents Daniels son facing off against Kenny? They would be in high school by then so age appropriate. I don't think you'll see Anthony doing karate. If he's going to solve his Kenny problem, it will be another way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 At this point we shouldn't yet assume that Kenny is going to become a bully. As of yet, he only threatened to make Anthony's High School time miserable ... but he has yet to do this. Anthony could still join the karate family in the wake of what happened to him now. Doesn't have to happen, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord Varys said: At this point we shouldn't yet assume that Kenny is going to become a bully. As of yet, he only threatened to make Anthony's High School time miserable ... but he has yet to do this. Anthony could still join the karate family in the wake of what happened to him now. Doesn't have to happen, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did. He beat on Anthony, who wasn't even defending himself, until he was pulled off. This is after Anthony was apologizing to him. Even Robbie saw the issue, I'd say it's safe to say the ship has sailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, dbunting said: He beat on Anthony, who wasn't even defending himself, until he was pulled off. This is after Anthony was apologizing to him. Even Robbie saw the issue, I'd say it's safe to say the ship has sailed. He certainly crossed a line there ... but it is still a road from that to complete bully. He was getting his payback there, showing the little prick how it actually feels when other people pick on you all the time. He could make good on his threat there ... or not. We have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I do think it'd be better for the show to have Anthony find a solution to his problem that isn't related to competing in the All Valley...it would be a better contrast to Kenny's journey as well. Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Jaxom 1974 said: I do think it'd be better for the show to have Anthony find a solution to his problem that isn't related to competing in the All Valley...it would be a better contrast to Kenny's journey as well. I agree but someone has to compete right, that's the whole premise of the series and movies, finish your battles in competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I'd actually not be surprised if they got away from the tourney stuff now - the whole backstory of Miguel's dad might have them explore organized crime. Which would also fit pretty well with Silver's plans to expand Cobra Kai - the entire enterprise has to be profitable, so we might finally leave the world of underage karate tourneys. Considering how, well, disillusioned the main young characters were with the tourney and certain characters obsession with them, I'd expect that they will have different plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, Lord Varys said: Considering how, well, disillusioned the main young characters were with the tourney and certain characters obsession with them, I'd expect that they will have different plans. Definitely agree they are growing tired of it, but if they resort to a battle dance off I am going to be pissed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, dbunting said: Definitely agree they are growing tired of it, but if they resort to a battle dance off I am going to be pissed! I didn't think about that ... more that we might get a larger kind of all-out battle. Assuming they really move the overall story on another level. But I really think that's their intention both with Miguel's dad and the empire Silver apparently wants to built. The return of Chozen also seems to imply that stakes are going to get higher ... they did some foreshadowing there with the more dangerous Miyagi techniques, etc. I'd really appreciate if the young guys got over their 'karate obession' and the gang thing and moved on, at least in part, with their skills coming to the fore not so much in tourney and in school but the larger world. We already had that with Kenny and Anthony being the 'school guys' while Sam and Robbie and Miguel all have more adult problems to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) I'm still pissed at Sam for the whole totalling Sensei Lawrence's ride fiasco. Eta: I feel like the tables are interestingly being set for a Kreese redemption. Edited January 22, 2022 by DireWolfSpirit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 27 minutes ago, DireWolfSpirit said: I'm still pissed at Sam for the whole totalling Sensei Lawrence's ride fiasco. Eta: I feel like the tables are interestingly being set for a Kreese redemption. Yeah, it seems pretty clear they are setting him up for a comeback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakasi Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Don’t love that since the guy til now has been pretty rotten. It’s nice having a bad guy be a bad guy and not just have everyone be nice in the end. Prince of the North 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury Resurrected Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Arakasi said: Don’t love that since the guy til now has been pretty rotten. It’s nice having a bad guy be a bad guy and not just have everyone be nice in the end. I think that’s kind of the heart of the show- the bad guy is never what you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 50/50 Kreese dies in an fight with Silver, trying to stop Silver from doing something bad to Johnny...in a Vader turns on the Emperor at the last moment kinda way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 They had already established that Kreese used to be a decent guy until Vietnam messed him up. There is still good in him, I feel it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakasi Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Sure but that was a show invention. They don’t need to have every character be redeemable. Sometimes bad guys are fun just to be bad guys. Prince of the North 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury Resurrected Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 1/23/2022 at 1:04 AM, Arakasi said: Sure but that was a show invention. They don’t need to have every character be redeemable. Sometimes bad guys are fun just to be bad guys. The whole premise of the show is redeeming the “fun just to be a bad guy” of the Karate Kid with Johnny. So I don’t think it’s the kind of show where you’re going to have anyone completely irredeemably bad forever. They’ve done it with each of the “bad” kids, and they’re doing it with Kreese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 And that's what Silver is for now...the one character who isn't redeemable, and will let people want to see Kreese redeemed... DireWolfSpirit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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