A Horse Named Stranger Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Old thread is past the 20 page mark. Let the storm of rage posts continue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Quote Ta-Nehisi Coates I can’t believe I’m gonna say this, but I see hope. I see progress right now, at this moment. I had an interesting call on Saturday with my dad, who was born in 1946, grew up dirt poor in Philadelphia, lived in a truck, went off to Vietnam, came back, joined the Panther Party, and was in Baltimore for the 1968 riots. Would’ve been about 22 at that time. I asked him if he could compare what he saw in 1968 to what he was seeing now. And what he said to me was there was no comparison — that this is much more sophisticated. And I say, well, what do you mean? He said it would have been like if somebody from the turn of the 20th century could see the March on Washington. The idea that black folks in their struggle against the way the law is enforced in their neighborhoods would resonate with white folks in Des Moines, Iowa, in Salt Lake City, in Berlin, in London — that was unfathomable to him in ‘68, when it was mostly black folks in their own communities registering their great anger and great pain. I don’t want to overstate this, but there are significant swaths of people and communities that are not black, that to some extent have some perception of what that pain and that suffering is. I think that’s different. Why Ta-Nehisi Coates is hopeful The author of Between the World and Me on why this isn’t 1968, the Colin Kaepernick test, police abolition, nonviolence and the state, and more. https://www.vox.com/2020/6/5/21279530/ta-nehisi-coates-ezra-klein-show-george-floyd-police-brutality-trump-biden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Old thread is past the 20 page mark. Let the storm of rage posts continue here. That’s a terrible title. What was wrong with A Good Day for a Dead Man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I just had a terrible thought cross my mind. Trump loses the election. In a final act of defiance, on his last day in office, Trump pardons the four Minnesota police officers, on the grounds they’d never get a fair trial. Take that, Biden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: I just had a terrible thought cross my mind. Trump loses the election. In a final act of defiance, on his last day in office, Trump pardons the four Minnesota police officers, on the grounds they’d never get a fair trial. He would do that for certain just to "own the libs". Fortunately, since Minnesota is a separate sovereign from the federal government, he doesn't have the authority. The state of Minnesota is the plaintiff, not the US government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 48 minutes ago, OldGimletEye said: He would do that for certain just to "own the libs". Fortunately, since Minnesota is a separate sovereign from the federal government, he doesn't have the authority. The state of Minnesota is the plaintiff, not the US government. Thank heavens! Ever since I thought about it I’ve felt sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Martell Spy said: Why Ta-Nehisi Coates is hopeful The author of Between the World and Me on why this isn’t 1968, the Colin Kaepernick test, police abolition, nonviolence and the state, and more. https://www.vox.com/2020/6/5/21279530/ta-nehisi-coates-ezra-klein-show-george-floyd-police-brutality-trump-biden There are so many small places where this really is the case, including an out-of-the-way town that dealt in slaves from the moment of its European existence, and where the Civil Rights movement, with equal numbers of African Americans and white people never stopped -- that corner on the confederate eastern shore of Maryland, Kent County, with Chestertown its County Seat. I get regular updates from my friends there -- it is amazing. I'd love to move there, but partner won't have it -- "I'd go insane, it's too small." But even here -- just check this out! https://www.messynessychic.com/2020/06/01/an-educational-haven-at-harlems-little-black-book-shop-turned-bb/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Came here to see the reactions to this and nothing? c'mon people, you're slow today. Link is the google cache version because the original seems to be overwhelmed by visitors, or something. Quote Around the time most South Carolinians were sitting down to their evening meals on Thursday night, a gay porn star by the name of Sean Harding fired off a tweet that set tongues-a-wagging across the Palmetto State (and in the nation’s capital). “There is a homophobic republican senator who is no better than (Donald Trump) who keeps passing legislation that is damaging to the LGBT and minority communities,” Harding tweeted. “Every sex worker I know has been hired by this man. Wondering if enough of us spoke out if that could get him out of office?” Wait … what? “I cannot do this alone,” Harding added in a follow-up tweet. “If you’d be willing to stand with me against LG please let me know.” Hold up … LG? Given that there is only one member of the U.S. Senate with those initials, speculation quickly turned (again) to U.S. senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who has been dodging rumors like this for the better part of the last decade. This time, though, the allegation took on a life of its own. By Friday afternoon, the hashtag “Lady G” – which is purportedly Graham’s nickname among male sex workers – was trending on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leofric Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Fucking Rand Paul Every member of Congress agrees to the anti-lynching bill (including him, before it had to be re-voted on because they changed just the name), but he stops it. And as far as I can tell his argument appears to be a lynching isn't a lynching unless the victim dies. Bruises, abrasions, rope burns etc. don't count if the victim is still breathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Triskele said: Maybe I'll look like a fool, but the NFL thing feels like a huge change. God I hate Brees and other morons. ETA: to be more precise: more like huge signal rather than actual change My support for the Saints has been lessened for the next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, A True Kaniggit said: My support for the Saints has been lessened for the next season. I don't do sports hate, and everything I try to do is playful and joking. LONG LIVE THE DINOS! But fuck the Saints. As an ex player, what they did to Favre was offensive. And I was raised to hate Brett Favre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 How's this for a Friday night info dump: Trump ordered 9,500 troops redeployed from Germany. Quote Donald Trump has ordered the US military to remove nearly 9,500 troops from Germany in a move likely to raise concerns in Europe about the US commitment to the region. The move would reduce US troop numbers in Germany to 25,000, compared with the 34,500 currently there, a senior US official said. Our relationship with NATO is going to be turbofucked after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, The Great Unwashed said: How's this for a Friday night info dump: Trump ordered 9,500 troops redeployed from Germany. I know we're living in bizarro world, but on its face, reducing troop deployments to Germany 75 years after the US stopped warring with them isn't necessarily a bad thing. Neither, btw, is requesting European allies pick up more of the tab when it comes to NATO. There are so many things to be pissed off at Trump about. Reducing our troop presence globally is just about the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, DMC said: I know we're living in bizarro world, but on its face, reducing troop deployments to Germany 75 years after the US stopped warring with them isn't necessarily a bad thing. Neither, btw, is requesting European allies pick up more of the tab when it comes to NATO. There are so many things to be pissed off at Trump about. Reducing our troop presence globally is just about the last one. If the withdrawal had been negotiated over a period of time with our NATO allies, then I'd be 100% on board. Our overseas military footprint is too large and the U.S. shouldn't be world police. But it seems that this is due more to Trump's increasingly strained relationship with Merkel, rather than a strategic redeployment, which is just another reason our allies will have not to trust us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, DMC said: I know we're living in bizarro world, but on its face, reducing troop deployments to Germany 75 years after the US stopped warring with them isn't necessarily a bad thing. Neither, btw, is requesting European allies pick up more of the tab when it comes to NATO. There are so many things to be pissed off at Trump about. Reducing our troop presence globally is just about the last one. Putin's latest orders to deathcultchief. That is what this looks like. Not good. Also no doubt deathcultchief is certain the troops need to be here to fight FOR HIM> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, The Great Unwashed said: But it seems that this is due more to Trump's increasingly strained relationship with Merkel Sure, of course it is. Just saying, not something I'm losing sleep over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Biden shreds Trump for calling Friday a 'great day' for George Floyd Pointing to a promising jobs report, Trump said earlier in the day, "Hopefully, George is looking down right now and saying, 'This is a great thing happening for our country.'" https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/biden-shreds-trump-calling-friday-great-day-george-floyd-n1226036 Quote At a news conference earlier Friday to address May unemployment figures that were released in the morning, Trump said, “Hopefully, George is looking down right now and saying, 'This is a great thing happening for our country.'” "This is a great day for him, it's a great day for everybody,” the president said. In his remarks Friday, Biden responded, “George Floyd's last words, ‘I can't breathe. I can't breathe,’ they've echoed all across this nation, quite frankly around the world. For the president to try to put any other words in the mouth of George Floyd I frankly think is despicable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Martell Spy said: Why Ta-Nehisi Coates is hopeful The author of Between the World and Me on why this isn’t 1968, the Colin Kaepernick test, police abolition, nonviolence and the state, and more. https://www.vox.com/2020/6/5/21279530/ta-nehisi-coates-ezra-klein-show-george-floyd-police-brutality-trump-biden Puts me in mind of this as well The way young white men get sucked into this shit on the internet is complicated, and at least in part probably stems from a correct feeling that something is wrong, but attributing it to entirely wrong causes. It seems to me that the cops have made a major mistake in assuming that because the public has largely accepted their brutality for years, then the public was on board with it. I think the reality is that a large chunk of the public, largely due to the complicity of the media, actually bought the bullshit justifications and lies. Now you've got the cops running around shooting peaceful protestors in the face (less lethal munitions), arresting people that have done nothing wrong, assaulting old white people for no reason, shooting and punching journalists and their cameras, the list goes on... And it's tearing the binders off a lot of people. There is no justification for police brutality. There never was and they need to be stopped. It might even help pull some of those young men back from the brink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prue Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 I just came across this clip where they said that the "12th amendment" could be used by Trump to get elected in November. Basically by saying that the states 'can't ensure the legitimacy of the electoral college vote' (hence the allegations that vote by mail would mean voter fraud) and then they would have an 'election' where each state has only one vote to elect the president. Which would mean that the 34 Republican states would vote Trump into office. Could that really work?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Prue said: Which would mean that the 34 Republican states would vote Trump into office. Could that really work?? The 12th amendment came about to rectify the obvious issues with the original setup of the Electoral College - at first every elector essentially cast two votes that were counted equally, which caused quite uneasiness among rich aged white male farmers at the time. The 12th was necessary to distinguish between president and vice president votes for the precise reason that if otherwise there's a strong possibility many elections would then be thrown to the House. Imagine 2016 under this situation - in which you could vote for, say, Hillary and Trump at the same time - knowing the loser would be vice president. Dollars to donuts Hillary would have won in such a case, but that's not how it should work (as if the EC "should" exist at all). The possibility the election gets thrown to the House - thanks to the 12th - necessitates a third party has negated the majority rule that favors Trump v. Biden. In turn, that assumes someone either than the Trump or Biden receives EC votes. I'm not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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