Iskaral Pust Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Raja said: I dunno what world you live in when you read consigliere's comments as 'being jealous we got a good deal' It’s not meant as attack. Selling one of your own prized young players is a wrench. United have a player pretty similar to Brewster. They could sell him for a similar or better deal, but I doubt they want to. Neither do Chelsea want to sell Abraham. The Brewster deal is a good one for Liverpool, but not so good that United or Chelsea will want to hear offers for their similar players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 It seems a bit on the expensive side, but then what other strikers are available at the moment? And I'd much rather have Brewster than Origi in our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 I get that Brewster is a guy people wanted to see more of and has high potential etc, but let's be fair for all sorts of reasons selling him isn't in the same galaxy as selling either Greenwood or Abraham would be. Both of them are first-teamers in teams that made the top 4 last season, and while Abraham's dropped to second choice and Greenwood probably will if we get a winger, they'll both still have far more importance to the squad than Brewster would at any time in the near future. They're both more proven and more needed and Mason Greenwood at least is also seen, in general, as having a fair bit higher ceiling, what with his finishing skills. Soylent's right though, the reason he's expensive is out-and-out strikers, especially goalscorers, of any serious provenance are rare as hen's teeth right now and Sheffield United need one desperately. It's actually quite a weird situation - which adds to the prices for him and Watkins- because right now quite a lot of teams do have a good goalscorer, all of a sudden as of last season, but none of them are going anywhere for less than princely sums and therefore the likes of Sheffield United and Villa have to take gambles just to hope to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Greenwood has a higher ceiling, but he's also much much less available. Abraham too, there's no way Chelsea would let him go anywhere. Everyone wants to be a wide forward these days. Strikers are dweebs. With Minamino and now Jota, we have decent backup for our front three. I'd prefer if we kept Shaqiri too, but I'm not sure that will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said: Greenwood has a higher ceiling, but he's also much much less available. Abraham too, there's no way Chelsea would let him go anywhere. Well that's the point really. Isk suggested Liverpool letting Brewster go is a comparable situation to those two leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Soylent Brown said: It seems a bit on the expensive side, but then what other strikers are available at the moment? And I'd much rather have Brewster than Origi in our squad. I imagine Origi wasn’t getting much attention in the market. Hasn’t exactly done much since that great run of games in 18/19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Origi has always been shit. He was basically an impulse buy on the back of him having a decent game at the 2014 World Cup. He's scored a few very important goals for us along the way - thank you, Divock - but he's always been second rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, polishgenius said: Soylent's right though, the reason he's expensive is out-and-out strikers, especially goalscorers, of any serious provenance are rare as hen's teeth right now and Sheffield United need one desperately. It's actually quite a weird situation - which adds to the prices for him and Watkins- because right now quite a lot of teams do have a good goalscorer, all of a sudden as of last season, but none of them are going anywhere for less than princely sums and therefore the likes of Sheffield United and Villa have to take gambles just to hope to keep up. I think what makes it a not so great deal for SU is the buyback (unless of course it's set at a high amount which seems unlikely). Brewster has potential and there's a better than average chance that he does quite well. In this market + being English, an eye catching breakout season could command a price tag of £60m or more (most likely more) but I doubt the buyback is more than 35-40 million. A first refusal would have been much better but Sheffield United were really desperate for a CF. They will probably be hoping that he does well but not so well that Liverpool would want to trigger the buyback - I believe the clause is active for three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 If he ends up being a £60m+ striker, you'd have to assume the next couple of years with Sheffield United will have been pretty good, so there will still be lots of positives for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 https://twitter.com/jamespearcelfc/status/1312135357371092992?s=21 Mane has covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Meh, 0-1. Fucking Diekmeier of all people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Dalot heading to AC Milan on loan. Pereira has already joined Lazio on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Mark Antony said: https://twitter.com/jamespearcelfc/status/1312135357371092992?s=21 Mane has covid That’s a big loss. I hope Jota plays a blinder in his place. At least Mane won’t be traveling for international friendlies now. I (maybe others too) always assume that healthy young athletes like these footballers will have only a mild case and then recover quickly, so it’s only their quarantine absence that really matters. But that’s pretty presumptuous of me. So I should say it explicitly: I hope they all avoid serious illness and recover their full health very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Coronavirus: Footballers receive massive salaries, so should the government still help clubs? - BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Yes, the government should be helping lower league clubs. PL clubs should still be okay even if fans are not allowed in stadiums (or if there is a restriction on capacity) for a while yet. Lower league clubs are the ones that rely massively on match day revenue so the government should make a bail out package available to prevent loads of clubs from going into administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted October 3, 2020 Author Share Posted October 3, 2020 England's number 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Really the whole league eco system is a mess. The premier league should by rights be forking out to help the lower league clubs during a time like this. Of course they can’t and won’t do that because they leverage themselves up to the hilt to compete. I don’t see it as a government responsibility, football should be looking after itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Jurgen asks better questions than the journalists from the PL, really dumb question about the 5 subs rule that was rejected. https://youtu.be/PODn4DSrgOU?t=240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Heartofice said: I don’t see it as a government responsibility, football should be looking after itself Governments have to prop up various industries all the time, and long term it can be very important for their viability. Also, suck it, 4-0 for the heroes in Blue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted October 3, 2020 Author Share Posted October 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: Also, suck it, 4-0 for the heroes in Blue! It's only 3-1 mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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