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So apparently some kid named Luke Combs covered Tracy Chapman's Fast Car and all of a sudden a bunch of uneducated white Americans love the song.

I apologize for the salt, but this really doesn't sit right with me.  Chapman, of course, was incredibly gracious and did a duet with Combs at the Grammys.  It's great she's getting recognition..over thirty years later. 

I loved that song growing up.  It frankly had some resonance when I was a tween and tried to run away from home with weapons, drugs, and irrevocably damaging my relationship with my parents because dad could get out of hand.

Anyway, really happy for Chapman.  She's a veritable American Treasure:

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On 2/18/2024 at 12:45 PM, DireWolfSpirit said:

The Black Crowes with new music and touring, love it, didnt think it would ever happen again.

 

It's incredible to me how that band got so huge and flamed out. Even more incredible is how they've kind of been erased from the history of that time. They got legit fucking huge for a while. Far more interesting than some of the other nostalgia acts of that time. Southern Companion and Amorica are genuinely great records. 

They also star in one of the most insane episodes of Behind the Music ever. 

1 hour ago, DMC said:

So apparently some kid named Luke Combs covered Tracy Chapman's Fast Car and all of a sudden a bunch of uneducated white Americans love the song.

I apologize for the salt, but this really doesn't sit right with me.  Chapman, of course, was incredibly gracious and did a duet with Combs at the Grammys.  It's great she's getting recognition..over thirty years later. 

I loved that song growing up.  It frankly had some resonance when I was a tween and tried to run away from home with weapons, drugs, and irrevocably damaging my relationship with my parents because dad could get out of hand.

Anyway, really happy for Chapman.  She's a veritable American Treasure

That song went to number 1 in Canada back in the day. She was quite successful up here I think.

It's insane to me when people talk about Nirvana single handedly "killed Glam Rock" when they ignore the success of artists like Chapman, REM, the whole brit pop phenom, U2, etc. Popular music in the '90's was like, a lot. 

Nope. It was all Nirvana and Guns n' Roses; gettin' "all street n' shit". Nevermind that Metallica was the best selling act of the '90's. 

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6 hours ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said:

Nope. It was all Nirvana and Guns n' Roses; gettin' "all street n' shit". Nevermind that Metallica was the best selling act of the '90's. 

Don't forget STP, NIN, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog, Smashing Pumpkins, etc., which helped shushy shushy glam rock until The Darkness arrived on the scene, and were further propped up by the glamishness (ish!) of Brandon Flowers and The Killers.

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Thanks to The Muppet Show, if it hadn't been for it, I would have never been introduced to so many talented people and so many fantastic songs, most definitely Leo Sayer and The Show Must Go On.

I might have heard a song like You Make Me Feel Like Dancing here and there, but a song like this one, I likely would have gone through life never even knowing this song existed, this amazing version of it or any version of it, by any artist at all. And that would have been such a loss!!!

The only thing that could have made this better is instead of that one muppet, the banjo player had been Kermit, sitting on a crate behind Leo, legs folded, banjo in his lap, playing his heart out...

 

 

 

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On 2/18/2024 at 2:45 PM, DireWolfSpirit said:

The Black Crowes with new music and touring, love it, didnt think it would ever happen again.

 

I think I've seen the Crowes more than I've seen any other band, probably a couple dozen times.  Was bummed when they called it off ten years ago or so, def gonna catch them this summer . 

Favorites were:

A)2001 at the Oakdale in Wallingford CT.  This was the Brotherly Love Tour with Spacehog and Oasis.

B)2001, same tour Mansfield Mass

C) Bonnaroo 2005, Broke Down Palace cover was incredibly moving 

D) Viejas Casino, CA 2006.  Robert Randolph Band at their best opening (played the Jeopardy theme lol), Crowes killed it with covers of Cripple Creek and Most Likely You'll Go Your Way And I'll Go Mine (Nico on vocals) and chuck berry encore.  Probably Chris's best performance I've caught.  

E) 2005 Hartford, opening for Petty and the Heartbreakers, got a free ticket from a busker outside of Black Eyed Sallies. Dude was doing a bunch of Motown and soul covers.  I had just met a guy who wanted to buy a guitar I had craigslist, he didn't buy it, ended up playing a couple songs with the busker and he gave me the ticket.

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On 2/27/2024 at 4:30 AM, DMC said:

So apparently some kid named Luke Combs covered Tracy Chapman's Fast Car and all of a sudden a bunch of uneducated white Americans love the song.

I apologize for the salt, but this really doesn't sit right with me.  Chapman, of course, was incredibly gracious and did a duet with Combs at the Grammys.  It's great she's getting recognition..over thirty years later. 

I loved that song growing up.  It frankly had some resonance when I was a tween and tried to run away from home with weapons, drugs, and irrevocably damaging my relationship with my parents because dad could get out of hand.

Anyway, really happy for Chapman.  She's a veritable American Treasure:

I do appreciate when a cover, or the use of a song in tv/film brings it new life and introduces it to a new audience. Its a bit baffling to me when people get annoyed by it ("urgh they aren't true fans urghhhhhh"). Like why bemoan an artist/band you love a load of new fans?

I know that's not what you're talking about here, to be clear, it just popped into mind as a somewhat related topic.

After a....'heavy' weekend I've needed something quieter to bring me back down

 

 

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My old band used to do a full-on rock cover of Fast Car, fifteen years after it was released. Drove the punters wild.

I remember we were supporting Madness on one of their UK tours, and when we did Manchester Arena, Tracy Chapman was playing in town the following night. So we closed our set with Fast Car and the place went fucking mental. 

I think I still have the recording.

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12 hours ago, HexMachina said:

I do appreciate when a cover, or the use of a song in tv/film brings it new life and introduces it to a new audience. Its a bit baffling to me when people get annoyed by it ("urgh they aren't true fans urghhhhhh"). Like why bemoan an artist/band you love a load of new fans?

I know that's not what you're talking about here, to be clear, it just popped into mind as a somewhat related topic.

Right, totally agree on that general point.  Younger and/or newer listeners getting into old music should generally be encouraged - not condescendingly looked down upon.  This particular instance just rubs me the wrong way for I think rather obvious reasons.

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I only saw this recently, must be one of the great Grammy live performances of all time. Tracy Chapman and Luke Combs performing Fast Car.

Love the crowd going mad when they see it's Tracy Chapman and her smile of acknowledgement.

Ah crap, sorry @DMC

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6 hours ago, Darryk said:

I only saw this recently, must be one of the great Grammy live performances of all time. Tracy Chapman and Luke Combs performing Fast Car.

Love the crowd going mad when they see it's Tracy Chapman and her smile of acknowledgement.

this is really funny because there's so much music out there all of us could post. And of everything, a live performance of a cover of an 80s song is reposted within about 10 posts in this thread :lol:

But, worth it, its an excellent cover 

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6 hours ago, Darryk said:

Ah crap, sorry @DMC

No worries, thought it was funny!  Especially considering my name is Darryk too.  Just, ya know, not spelled that way.  My parents unfortunately weren't Martin fans when I was born in 1985.  :D

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On 3/1/2024 at 1:46 AM, DMC said:

Right, totally agree on that general point.  Younger and/or newer listeners getting into old music should generally be encouraged - not condescendingly looked down upon.  This particular instance just rubs me the wrong way for I think rather obvious reasons.

Tis gatekeeping and I'll have none of that, thankyouverymuch. Like, ok, do I like Rudimental and Ella Henderson's Alibi, which heavily samples Gangsta's Paradise by Coolio? Or Kygo and Ava Max's Whatever, which heavily retools Shakira's Wherever, Whenever? I don't know. Will it bring either original artist new fans? ...I don't know?

But I'd like to hope that Butterfly Boucher's cover of Bowie's Changes, or Dar Williams' cover of Starman by Bowie brought new Bowie new fans. It also helps that both covers are excellent, whereas I don't have quite the same praise for the first two songs, which aren't *quite* covers as they are samplers.

 

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16 minutes ago, IlyaP said:

Tis gatekeeping and I'll have none of that, thankyouverymuch.

Really not the point I was making -- and if you can't see why the situation makes many people uncomfortable that's your problem, thankyouverymuch.

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7 minutes ago, DMC said:

Really not the point I was making -- and if you can't see why the situation makes many people uncomfortable that's your problem, thankyouverymuch.

People frowning on people discovering new music via covers and being protective of the original isn't gatekeeping? What would you call it then? (Aside from...snobbery, maybe?)

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