grozeng Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 [quote name='Slurktan' post='1689384' date='Feb 17 2009, 09.05']You are not alone in the lesbian idea. I pretty much thought that after the smoky glance given by the partner at the wedding.[/quote] I am probably wrong but didn't she say that she owned the shop with her sister? Probably not. I thought it was an odd glance to give to your sister while watching it. I didn't mind the episode. Some things could have been done better, but we have 3 more episodes until Fuller is back (I think). I am kind of annoyed we are getting the HRG episode before he is back. Coupled with Kristen at E! saying things get worse before things get better with the show has me worried they are going to royally screw things up next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlingzen Bill Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 [quote name='Muttering Bill' post='1689291' date='Feb 17 2009, 07.55']And what was the point of Hiro and Ando going to India? So Hiro could realize that he can be a hero without powers (yawn) - did they really need to go to India for that? They couldn't have just done that in CA, since they now have to go back there anyway? Which also bring up the issue of how they, having no money and needing to stay off the radar, just hopped on a plane without incident...[/quote] I assumed that Hiro was tapping the family accounts. His sister is running the company and he is free to pursue his heroic quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superkick Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 [quote name='Muttering Bill' post='1689291' date='Feb 17 2009, 07.55']They need to stop screwing with Sylar. He's pretty much the only thing making the show worth watching, but even that's a stretch since they keep tossing in all this sentimental bs. I happy to see him take off on Luke (was that really his name - I don't even remember), that kid was so obnoxious. But no, he has to go back. Hopefully he saws the kids head open next episode. And what was the point of Hiro and Ando going to India? So Hiro could realize that he can be a hero without powers (yawn) - did they really need to go to India for that? They couldn't have just done that in CA, since they now have to go back there anyway? Which also bring up the issue of how they, having no money and needing to stay off the radar, just hopped on a plane without incident... The show is once again testing my patience. I'll hang on and see if Fuller can make the show worthwhile again, as everyone seems to believe he will. But if things don't turn around, this may well be my last season.[/quote] Just because sylar is normal pretty psychotic doesnt mean he cant ever have any goodwill. IF he was a compelty black/white it would be booring. Sylar just sees himself in luke, which is why he chnages his mind a nd helps him. It wasnt exactly ahgaisnt his perosnality to do so, i mean he did go and kill a whole swat team in the process. It wasnt because he has any feelings to the kid, the kid just reminds him of himself. Plus, whats wrong if sylar wants other people being psychotic with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Thursday Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Well, I thought that a step down from the previous two, mainly because the Hiro/Ando plotline was ATROCIOUS. I could barely look at the screen, I was wincing so badly whenever they came on. Horrible, horrible, horrible *shivers*. I'm going to try and blot that from my memory. The other three plotlines were OK, though there weren't any Wow moments in there (except perhaps the cliffhanger with HRG at the end). There were a couple of lines I had to laugh at for just how horrible they were: 1) Sylar is talking about his childhood memory of being pulled in a cart by his father. Apparently the branches of the trees reminded him of "snake fingers". Let me know once you've figured out what those are. 2) Nathan confronting Mr. Hero Hunter about him letting Tracy escape: "Why don't you apologize to his blood stain, it's still warm." The guy had just been frozen. *slaps head* Overall I felt the dialogue was overly stilted, and Luke is starting to annoy me. I no longer look forward to next week's show with the optimism that I looked at this one with :(. Sir Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfSpender Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 One thing that keeps annoying me about [i]Heroes[/i] is the "fact" that you can't be evil and have a working family. HRG went through the third or fourth time of this in episode, the Petrelli family was unhappy because Arthur was a supervillain, and when Sylar turned bad again in the last volume, he immediately had to end his relationship with Elle in a rather final way. Maybe it's a specific American thing, the assumption that morality means or has to include domestic values? Anyway, it just seems naive - why should it be impossible to have a working family life and a job of horrors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superkick Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 the Lannisters dont do to well at having a working family life and a job of horrors either :P see even GRRM cant do what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerol Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 There is so much wrong in the last episode I don't know where to begin. Ando/Hiro - other than the lesbians that pretty much blew (but about time this show actually acknowledges people of any other orientation exist). HRG/Claire Bear - blew steaming chunks and kept on blowing. At least the separation of the Bennetts was the first honest reaction to anything happening in this show in well, 3 seasons. Nathan as a dictator is ridiculous - since when does a US Senator get a mandate to do anything remotely close to black ops other than covering up the death of an intern? It is beyond laughable. I can stretch my point of believability pretty damn far but this is the kind of shit that you would see in a daytime soap. A BAD daytime soap. And if Tracy knew this was a setup, why did she even try to escape in such an obvious way. The character is supposed to be smart and she sets off a dozen alarms and adds another murder to her rap sheet. And don't get me started on Baby Sylar. These writers are so in love with precocious teen characters they make the writers who dealt us Wesley Crusher look like polished professionals. At this point I am only in this show for the unintentional comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolton Bastard Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I'll be honest, mini Sylar doesn't annoy me. However, I have this terrible feeling Aquaman will become Claire's new adolescent male friend... just like she had in the last 2 bloody seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Time for Wolves Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Yeah, Nathan's storyline is almost as bad as Hiro/Ando. But not quite. Hiro and Ando's storyline was jaw-droppingly awful. It made me wonder how stupid the writers think their audience is. I mean, do they think, "Yeah, it looks absolutely moronic and makes no sense, but the viewers will lap it up. Obviously." And speaking of Nathan's storyline, what a tragic waste of Moira Kelly! She's so awesome, and she's also Queen Nala, which makes her even cooler. I can't believe she was put into such a mindless role that makes no logical sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Time for Wolves Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Er, okay so the Edit button isn't working for me...anyway, I wanted to say, I think I know who the Rebel is. My guess is Angela Petrelli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 [quote name='Brienne of Tarth' post='1689934' date='Feb 17 2009, 18.30']Er, okay so the Edit button isn't working for me...anyway, I wanted to say, I think I know who the Rebel is. My guess is Angela Petrelli.[/quote] Too obvious. So it's probably right. Though I'll hold out hope it's someone else. Whomever spoke of execution upthread (Ran?) is so very right. There's so very much here begging for some decent execution. Every storyline. That being said, there's always going to be episodes that don't match the heights of an earlier episode. This volume is still an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superkick Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 why does claire have to breath if she doesnt die if she stops breathing? cant here and water boy jsut go dissapear in the ocean and never be heard from again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Knight on the Left Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='Muttering Bill' post='1689291' date='Feb 17 2009, 06.55']They need to stop screwing with Sylar. He's pretty much the only thing making the show worth watching, but even that's a stretch since they keep tossing in all this sentimental bs. I happy to see him take off on Luke (was that really his name - I don't even remember), that kid was so obnoxious. But no, he has to go back. Hopefully he saws the kids head open next episode. And what was the point of Hiro and Ando going to India? So Hiro could realize that he can be a hero without powers (yawn) - did they really need to go to India for that? They couldn't have just done that in CA, since they now have to go back there anyway? Which also bring up the issue of how they, having no money and needing to stay off the radar, just hopped on a plane without incident... The show is once again testing my patience. I'll hang on and see if Fuller can make the show worthwhile again, as everyone seems to believe he will. But if things don't turn around, this may well be my last season.[/quote] There's no reason that Hiro couldn't have money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superkick Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='Third Knight on the Left' post='1690118' date='Feb 17 2009, 19.06']There's no reason that Hiro couldn't have money.[/quote] Hiro has millions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Thursday Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='superkick' post='1690106' date='Feb 17 2009, 23.59']why does claire have to breath if she doesnt die if she stops breathing? cant here and water boy jsut go dissapear in the ocean and never be heard from again?[/quote] Her body can't function without air though - while she'd revive as soon as she got back onto dry land, she wouldn't be able to do anything while her lungs were filled with water. I could see them doing some kind of plotline where she gets drowned and sunk to the bottom of the ocean, and Waterboy has to go and save her...don't think that would turn out too well though. For one thing, it's a Harry Potter ripoff... Sir Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbigski Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='Brienne of Tarth' post='1689255' date='Feb 17 2009, 06.55']On the other hand, Claire and HRG have a great dynamic going on. I like how it's played out so far, but I'm still frustrated that Lyle Bennett gets completely ignored. How does he feel about Dad moving out? Doesn't HRG care about him? I mean, Mr. Muggles gets more attention than poor Lyle does.[/quote] That was the worst part of the episode, and the plot line that is finally pushing me towards considering abandoning this show. HRG is bad for 4-5 episodes, no wait he's good, no wait, just kidding. It's not character development when you just bounce back and forth repeatedly between the same two states, ad nauseum. But it would be awesome if either Lyle turns out to be some sort of super powered bad ass, or Mr. Muggles becomes the canine version of Sylar, except actually eating brains. The Nathan storyline is pretty crappy right now too. And Hiro and Ando, even though they at least are good for occasional comic relief ("The Ando-Cycle is a chick magnet!"). Hopefully the producer changes will make the show start sucking less, and then they can improve from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alguien Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='superkick' post='1690106' date='Feb 17 2009, 18.59']why does claire have to breath if she doesnt die if she stops breathing? [b]Can't her and water boy just go disappear in the ocean and never be heard from again?[/b][/quote] You've no idea how much I've wished for this to happen... Claire just annoys the shit out of me lately. She has Logan's power, but at least Wolverine has some badassery to back up his annoying-as-hell "But what I do isn't very nice" tagline. Claire on the other hand is a 105 lb teen whose had two days' worth of combat training. Like Stuntman in Wildcards, her power is pretty useless offensively, especially against other powers. And, though its been said, the never-ending plotline of her rebelling against daddy got pretty tired by the seventh time it was tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 [quote name='Sir Thursday' post='1690128' date='Feb 17 2009, 19.13']I could see them doing some kind of plotline where she gets drowned and sunk to the bottom of the ocean, and Waterboy has to go and save her...don't think that would turn out too well though. For one thing, it's a Harry Potter ripoff... Sir Thursday[/quote] I think you need to recalibrate what you consider rip-off. What you describe is a superficial similarity. That said, ripping off Harry Potter would be an improvement for this show. Last episode I thought for a moment they'd try to do their version of Lost. This episode, with Building 26, I thought it would be their version of 24. This show really is flailing. Anyway, I was thinking Rebel would be Micah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Raidne Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Just caught the last episodes. Thought the one from two weeks ago was not as good as the episode the week before - total return of, well, not bad acting, exactly, but actors who clearly think their lines suck. And they're not wrong. Daphne's death was so glossed over and such a non-event that I have a hard time believing it really happened. So they just left her body out there? How exactly did they get Parkman to do that? And then this week...gods. WTF does stopping this wedding have to with the plot? So Hiro can realize he doesn't need powers to be a hero? Really??? What is this - an after school special? Also, hmmm....this plot line seems familiar. Someone is gathering up all the Heroes. First the company, and then Arthur Patrelli's group, and now, this time, the government. It's the same damn plot line over and over, this time with some really heavy-handed Guantanamo Bay references. Not to mention Claire and her Dad have been playing out the same damn plot line for forever now. When HRG was like "I don't know what we'll do if they take notice of you" I was thinking, gee, why not just ship her off to France under Angela Patrelli's protection with the Haitian as an escort? Or because you're writers couldn't make sense of that direction for more than half an episode. Right. And, WTF??? She was responsible for multiple deaths of government agents. She singlehandedly crashed the plane whereby a massive manhunt had to be lost and mostly failed. She royally f*ed up the entire operation. They would really just [i]let her walk around[/i]? I'm sure HRG and Nathan could keep her from getting killed, but she just gets to bum around the house waiting for the chance to foil their plans again? I don't think so. And why does she keep coming home? It makes her such a lame character. So is there really any hope it's going to get better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Well, I'm hopeful Bryan Fuller will be able to do something positive once his contributions start showing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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