Jon AS Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 This was a great episode. Simple concept wonderfully explored using minimalistic sets and just focussing on the three leads. Well, mostly the Ponds, really, since the Doctor was reduced to sitting in the TARDIS. Great acting by Arthur Darvill and especially Karen Gillan. Older Amy did feel quite distinct from her younger self while still clearly being the same person. This is the kind of episode the show needs more of, I can't even think of any obvious plot holes right now (so someone is going to mention at least half a dozen any second...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 That was a brilliant episode. The sort Steven Moffatt used to write when he wasn't putting together massive arcs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Watchman Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I really enjoyed that last episode, especiallyWhen OldAmy an The Doctor ar staring at each other down the corridor and you just know how it's going to end, and from the look on her face she does too. Gilan was very good in this episode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Best episode so far this series. In fact, best Matt Smith episode so far. Probably the second best ever of New Who, after Blink (I reserve the right to revise this once I stop feeling emotional). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filippa Eilhart Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I can't even think of any obvious plot holes right now well, one obvious plot hole is she doesn't ask which of the two buttons to press, she just presses a button. But other than that, I really enjoyed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 well, one obvious plot hole is she doesn't ask which of the two buttons to press, she just presses a button. But other than that, I really enjoyed it! That's not a plot hole, it's just her being an idiot. I was gonna say that Rory being less badass than Old Amy is a bit of a plot hole coz why is 2,000 year old him less competent than 50 year old her, but then I noticed that once he's worked them out, he knocks one of the robots out with his bare hands at the end. Rory is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houndred Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Finally getting caught up on the new who, sorry if I am an episode or two behind. When Robot!Amy was talking about the question that will lead to the Silence, my mind shouted "42!" I thought "Doctor who?" was the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I would say this was definatly one of the best Dr Who episodes ever. I'm not so sure the younger audiance members would have got as much out of it as the adults this time (although they still would have enjoyed the episode). The ending was powerful, even if you knew what would happen to old Amy. Yes there was moisture in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyelesbarrow Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Best episode so far this series. In fact, best Matt Smith episode so far. Probably the second best ever of New Who, after Blink (I reserve the right to revise this once I stop feeling emotional).Interesting that the episodes you mentioned are the ones that do not have that much Doctor in them. I suppose minus all the gimmicky bits of your average DW ep, the best eps are always the ones that have an emotional punch and effective storytelling (read: not much plotholes that make you say "huh?" in the middle of watching it). Like this one. Anyway, love the acting in this episode. I knew that Arthur Darville can act, having seen him in Little Dorrit before. Karen Gillan, prior to this, I felt that she didn't have much to do as Amy. I'm glad they gave her something weighty this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samalander Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 This episode made me think of the short story "Think like a Dinosaur" by James Patrick Kelly.Sadly, I could not locate it online, but here is a list of all publications:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_Like_a_Dinosaur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Good idea, great acting, two things spoiled it slightly. One, the hand-robots were awful. To the point where they were detracting from a decent story. Dumb concept, badly executed. Two, the director was inclined to lay on the emotional cues rather too thickly, even by Who standards. The acting was good enough: after all the heavy musical cues and dramatic pauses, it was in danger of becoming overwrought. But the big test was the ending, and they didn't flunk it. It'll be interesting to see if there's some fallout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon AS Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 well, one obvious plot hole is she doesn't ask which of the two buttons to press, she just presses a button. I'd say that the plot hole there is that infected and healthy people walk up to the same room and then have to press the correct button themselves. I assume that they don't expect people to drop in right in the middle of the building via TARDIS, but still some kind of supervision prior to entering the quarantine zone would be warranted? But the big test was the ending, and they didn't flunk it. It'll be interesting to see if there's some fallout... Yes, I was afraid that older Amy would just conveniently die/decide to stay behind. The actual way it played out had a lot more emotional punch. I wonder how long Amy and Rory will stick around after what they've been through recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraday Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Great ep, though I prefer The Doctor's Wife from this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I too enjoyed this ep. The only thing that annoyed me though was the plot device of "omg 'x' will kill me with no regeneration" which has already been used in 2 out of 3 episodes this half-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valacirca Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 That was definitely my favorite episode of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 Very strong episode. I'd probably rate it as a notch below The Doctor's Wife, but right up there with Blink as being among the best stories the new series has given us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valacirca Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Best episode so far this series. In fact, best Matt Smith episode so far. Probably the second best ever of New Who, after Blink (I reserve the right to revise this once I stop feeling emotional).I concur. Totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valacirca Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 BTW: "I WAITED 2000 YEARS FOR YOU." (and she's furious about 36) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 In fairness, she wasn't particularly angry at Rory; and Rory made the choice in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I suppose minus all the gimmicky bits of your average DW ep, the best eps are always the ones that have an emotional punch and effective storytelling (read: not much plotholes that make you say "huh?" in the middle of watching it). I agree, I think one of the reasons this episode was a lot better than, for example, Let's Kill Hitler was because they did actually explore the emotions the characters would be feeling. LKH was fun to watch, but it was so fast-moving that it never spent any time exploring how traumatic the whole situation should be for Amy and Rory so it ended up feeling quite shallow, whereas this episode certainly didn't shy away from the impact the situation would have on future Amy. The episode could easily have ended up being quite weak since it had a contrived premise and bland incompetent monsters, but because it had well-done characterisation (helped by some great acting) it is one of the best Doctor Who episodes of the new era. I wonder how long Amy and Rory will stick around after what they've been through recently. If they end up going back to a normal life in Leadworth then they lose any chance of seeing their daughter again, so they do have a motivation to stay with the Doctor, although I suspect they may increasingly wish that they'd never gone away with him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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