US Politics: Opening Pandora's Box

[Dr. Pepper]

1 hour ago, Commodore said:

• Scott Walker
• Mike Rowe
• Outsource the job to India
• Automate the job and nominate a robot

The last three would be obvious step ups from Puzder.  

[Jaxom 1974]

34 minutes ago, Fez said:

Depends on who gets to program the robot.

And I doubt Walker would want the job. He's got two years left on the job (and is he even term-limited?), and going from Governor of Wisconsin to US Labor Secretary seems like a pretty big step down.

Have you ever been to Scott Walker's Wisconsin? One must easily assume even Scott Walker would want out as soon as feasibly possible...

[TrueMetis]

16 minutes ago, Chaircat Meow said:

Maybe cite your source. You may lead some to believe this comes from the Koran or something, when it does not. It is a grant of protection to certain Christians issued at a time when Muslim armies were waging a vast war of conquest against the Christian/Roman Empire.

You mean when it was expanding via conquest as all empires did. It's funny, I never see the British empire described as a time when Christian armies where waging a vast war of conquest against pagans. And yet people have this odd need to act like the Caliphates were special somehow. Also they totally forget that the majority of what the Islamic caliphate conquered wasn't at all Christian.

[Chaircat Meow]

9 minutes ago, TrueMetis said:

You mean when it was expanding via conquest as all empires did. It's funny, I never see the British empire described as a time when Christian armies where waging a vast war of conquest against pagans. And yet people have this odd need to act like the Caliphates were special somehow. Also they totally forget that the majority of what the Islamic caliphate conquered wasn't at all Christian.

The letter is not a declaration of eternal peace and tolerance for Christians, especially Christian states, because it was issued at a time of aggressive war by Muslims against everybody else. Your point about the British Empire is irrelevant.

The caliphate's conquests were Christian in most respects. Iran wasn't, and the religious situation in Iraq is a little unclear, but most of the population might have been Nestorian Christian there (although the state was Zoroastrian).

[Kalbear]

Please take the Islam/Christian stuff out of this thread. Please. Please. Please.

[MerenthaClone]

33 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Yep. Despite many early beliefs that Pence would run the government from the shadows, it seems clear now that he has a very minimal role in the Administration. I've read and heard various reporting that he's been entirely phased out on national security and foreign affairs, and that his only real role at the moment is to act as a go-between the WH and the Congress. The people who are gaining a lot of power and influence on Trump's team seem to largely be Bannon, Kushner and Miller, and to a lesser but still notable extent, Mattis.

This could very easily be Pence positioning himself as the "adult in the room" once everything falls apart for the Trump admin.  

[Manhole Eunuchsbane]

9 minutes ago, MerenthaClone said:

This could very easily be Pence positioning himself as the "adult in the room" once everything falls apart for the Trump admin.  

Yeah, that was my thought as well. Maybe he has removed himself from the "Inner Circle" so as to avoid the Sword of Damocles.

[Mexal]

1 minute ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said:

Yeah, that was my thought as well. Maybe he has removed himself from the "Inner Circle" so as to avoid the Sword of Damocles.

I really think like he's been removed. Pence doesn't seem like the type of person who would have sway over Trump.

[Manhole Eunuchsbane]

Just now, Mexal said:

I really think like he's been removed. Pence doesn't seem like the type of person who would have sway over Trump.

He also seems vaguely competent, unlike the vast majority of this administration. 

[Mlle. Zabzie]

 

1 minute ago, Mexal said:

I really think like he's been removed. Pence doesn't seem like the type of person who would have sway over Trump.

 

Agreed.  As much as we'd like to think that someone else was ACTUALLY running things, I think it is quite clear that Trump is in charge.  Occam's razor here.

[Mexal]

Just now, Manhole Eunuchsbane said:

He also seems vaguely competent, unlike the vast majority of this administration. 

He does which leads me to believe he's kept out of the loop. If there was any level of visible competence, I might believe Pence was more involved. 

[Manhole Eunuchsbane]

Just now, Mlle. Zabzie said:

Agreed.  As much as we'd like to think that someone else was ACTUALLY running things, I think it is quite clear that Trump is in charge.  Occam's razor here.

I don't think that's true either. It might not be Pence running things, but I don't think it's Donald either.

[Martell Spy]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-harward-flynn-national-security-235071

Trump has offered Harward the job as Flynn's replacement

[Savannah]

2 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said:

 

One might even say that this promise is one of the earlier examples of guaranteeing rights to minorities. So perhaps Islam is more aligned to the UN declaration on Human Rights than people really think.

 

That's Not likely, considering that the islamic world couldn't care less about the UN declaration and came up with a declaration of their own, the Cairo declaration.

"The Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam (CDHRI) is a declaration of the member states of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference adopted in Cairo, Egypt, on 5 August 1990,[1] (Conference of Foreign Ministers, 9–14 Muharram 1411H in the Islamic calendar[2]) which provides an overview on the Islamic perspective on human rights, and affirms Islamic sharia as its sole source. CDHRI declares its purpose to be "general guidance for Member States [of the OIC] in the field of human rights".

This declaration is widely acknowledged as an Islamic response to the United Nations's Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), adopted in 1948. It guarantees many of the same rights as the UDHR, while at the same time reaffirming the inequalities inherent in Islamic law and tradition in terms of religion, religious conversion, gender, sexuality, political rights, and other aspects of contemporary society at odds with various interpretations of the Islamic law and traditions."

[Mexal]

I don't know if anyone has seen this but the Trump campaign is holding a rally in Florida on Feb 18th. This is his 2020 reelection campaign and he's holding a rally a month into his presidency complete with a radio ad buy to promote it. Insane especially given everything going on.

 

[TheKitttenGuard]

11 minutes ago, Mexal said:

I don't know if anyone has seen this but the Trump campaign is holding a rally in Florida on Feb 18th. This is his 2020 reelection campaign and he's holding a rally a month into his presidency complete with a radio ad buy to promote it. Insane especially given everything going on.

 

 

It is kind of odd that it is one that appears only for his supporters.  Not that supporters show up for events but that appears design for supporters just after four weeks is really just another statement on Trump's priorities. 

[OldGimletEye]

Jeb Hensarling, author of the Financial Bomb Act, has alternative facts. Shocker.

http://www.creditslips.org/creditslips/2017/02/jeb-hensarlings-alternative-facts.html

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House Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas 5th) has an alternative fact problem. In a Wall Street Journal op-ed Hensarling alleged that "Since the CFPB’s advent, the number of banks offering free checking has drastically declined, while many bank fees have increased. Mortgage originations and auto loans have become more expensive for many Americans.”

 

[Zorral]

11 minutes ago, TheKitttenGuard said:

 

It is kind of odd that it is one that appears only for his supporters.  Not that supporters show up for events but that appears design for supporters just after four weeks is really just another statement on Trump's priorities. 

He's melting.  He needs his crowd adulation vitamins in order to keep going.  He's back on his yuge electoral college win.  Pathetic!  Pathetic!  What a yuge loser he is!

Is it possible that all the sharks, of whatever denomination are detecting the faint tang of potus blood in the water, are beginning to think of circling.

Gads, he's incompetent.  We are seeing how ran casinos into the ground, a business in which the house always wins and the mafia was on his side! 

[Zorral]

34 minutes ago, Savannah said:

That's Not likely, considering that the islamic world couldn't care less about the UN declaration and came up with a declaration of their own, the Cairo declaration.

"The Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam (CDHRI) is a declaration of the member states of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference adopted in Cairo, Egypt, on 5 August 1990,[1] (Conference of Foreign Ministers, 9–14 Muharram 1411H in the Islamic calendar[2]) which provides an overview on the Islamic perspective on human rights, and affirms Islamic sharia as its sole source. CDHRI declares its purpose to be "general guidance for Member States [of the OIC] in the field of human rights".

This declaration is widely acknowledged as an Islamic response to the United Nations's Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), adopted in 1948. It guarantees many of the same rights as the UDHR, while at the same time reaffirming the inequalities inherent in Islamic law and tradition in terms of religion, religious conversion, gender, sexuality, political rights, and other aspects of contemporary society at odds with various interpretations of the Islamic law and traditions."

Criticize the inequalities and violence in our own society directed toward our own citizens by so-called Christians.  This is something we can really do something about.

And as Kalbear said -- arguing in a political topic about whether Islam is the eviLest thing that ever happened and that Christians are the Greatest thing that ever happened, is a waste of all our time -- totally useless.

[Manhole Eunuchsbane]

14 minutes ago, TheKitttenGuard said:

 

It is kind of odd that it is one that appears only for his supporters.  Not that supporters show up for events but that appears design for supporters just after four weeks is really just another statement on Trump's priorities. 

On top of that it's at the fucking Orlando Airport? WTF?