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It's become quite cold here too.

So no one is going to the GOT exhibition?

We're going. Although it's highly likely that I'll get there, see long lines and get all grumbly so head to the pub instead :p

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Massively windy too...branches coming down everywhere around my place in Sydney's north.

We've been lucky so far, just feeling the wind chill factor!

We're going. Although it's highly likely that I'll get there, see long lines and get all grumbly so head to the pub instead :p

We'll be there Wednesday if having company makes time go better. Baby- Wulff is salivating already!

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Boycotting that abomination!



Six things:


1. Sydney is cold.


2. I'll be escaping to warmer climes soon...


3. Work is boring.


4. Go Freo!


5. I kinda enjoyed State of Origin (the veracity of that statement is open to interpretation).


6. We have a new Senate! Oh f*ck. We have a new Senate.


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Enjoy your holiday! I'm not really looking forward to this years tour at all but I suspect my perspective would be very different if watching it there :)

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This government is pushing awfully close to the line where I think there needs to be criminal investigations. If we have turned over Tamil asylum seekers to the Sri Lankan navy that's across the line. Lying about it and using our defence forces for their own political ends is not acceptable and this shit needs to be shut down.

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So no one is going to the GOT exhibition?

It's a 5 hour drive up to Sydney for me, then i'd have to face many more hours lining up to get in.

So unless Pedro Pascal and Tom Wlaschiha are both going to personally escort me around the exhibition, i'll pass.

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Have fun! The talk of five hour lines has shifted me into thinking that spending the weekend in bed playing civ is a far better option :p

Pax that sounds like the perfect holiday!

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This government is pushing awfully close to the line where I think there needs to be criminal investigations. If we have turned over Tamil asylum seekers to the Sri Lankan navy that's across the line. Lying about it and using our defence forces for their own political ends is not acceptable and this shit needs to be shut down.

Abbott and Rudd/Gillard have provided tacit support to the war criminals/mass murderers that make up the Sri Lankan dictatorship. I'm not sure which particular incident you're referring to but it sounds sadly reminiscent of successive governments' attitude to the Tamil survivors of Sri Lankan atrocities. We are grossly culpable when we hand or force back asylum seekers to a regime that tortures and kills them. Unfortunately, powerful government and conservative (Bolt etc) propaganda has labelled these vulnerable people as cheats/queue jumpers and the public is more than happy that they're getting what they deserve by being turned away.

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All this talk of cold and wind prompts me to post about the weather as well.



It is absolutely persisting down here today. And warm. It was over 20 yesterday, Is it winter or not?


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Abbott and Rudd/Gillard have provided tacit support to the war criminals/mass murderers that make up the Sri Lankan dictatorship. I'm not sure which particular incident you're referring to but it sounds sadly reminiscent of successive governments' attitude to the Tamil survivors of Sri Lankan atrocities. We are grossly culpable when we hand or force back asylum seekers to a regime that tortures and kills them. Unfortunately, powerful government and conservative (Bolt etc) propaganda has labelled these vulnerable people as cheats/queue jumpers and the public is more than happy that they're getting what they deserve by being turned away.

There were reports of a boat with 150 Tamil asylum seekers approaching Christmas Island and in trouble, it had come direct from Indian so the Government was not going to be able to turn it around to Indonesia. Both Fairfax and the ABC had contact with people on board and contact was lost on Saturday. There is some concern that the government had the navy intercept the vessel and turned the asylum seekers on board over to the Sri Lankan navy. If this is what has happened it's way across the line for me, this is straight up human trafficking and surely a breach of our own domestic law, not just International refugee obligations. It combines with the level of secrecy that was already more than I'm OK with, and is part of the Gov using the military for political ends in a very brazen way. Not enough Australians seem concerned about it though, which means it will become part of business as usual.

ETA: Go away Stubby, even if it is warm there Sydney has something Perth lacks and that's all that counts!

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ETA: Go away Stubby, even if it is warm there Sydney has something Perth lacks and that's all that counts!

I think I would rather be colder than drenched as we are today. ;)

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There were reports of a boat with 150 Tamil asylum seekers approaching Christmas Island and in trouble, it had come direct from Indian so the Government was not going to be able to turn it around to Indonesia. Both Fairfax and the ABC had contact with people on board and contact was lost on Saturday. There is some concern that the government had the navy intercept the vessel and turned the asylum seekers on board over to the Sri Lankan navy. If this is what has happened it's way across the line for me, this is straight up human trafficking and surely a breach of our own domestic law, not just International refugee obligations. It combines with the level of secrecy that was already more than I'm OK with, and is part of the Gov using the military for political ends in a very brazen way. Not enough Australians seem concerned about it though, which means it will become part of business as usual.

ETA: Go away Stubby, even if it is warm there Sydney has something Perth lacks and that's all that counts!

I completely agree with the sentiment, but as morally reprehensible as it is, turning the boat back would in no sense be human trafficking and (I suspect, but I'm no lawyer) would not technically breach Australia's obligations under the 1951 Convention. That's precisely why they do it - if they turn the boat around before it makes it into the Australian migration zone and before the passengers can claim aslyum, they're not protected by refugee law, including the principle of non-refoulement which would have made turning the Tamil asylum seekers over to the Sri Lankan military illegal.

It's horrendous and it makes me ashamed of our country to see it.

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Obviously the story is far from clear, but in this case I didn't think it was taking their boat back to Sri Lankan navy, I thought it was offloading them from their own boat, and loading them onto a Sri Lankan vessel. I had the impression that their vessel was no longer sea worthy.



Turning the boat from India around so it went into Indonesian waters would be a violation of Indonesian sovereignty and presumably would result in a much much larger row which is why I say they couldn't do that, and potentially would could as people smuggling into Indonesia. Turning it around to India would have just been killing them as the vessel wasnt capable of the return trip.


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