HairGrowsBack Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Channel4s-JonSnow said: The music is definitely better on the show than it is in the books. I could barely hear it when I was reading I know, right ? I think GRRM really dropped the ball with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken_Sailor24 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I agree with a lot that has already been posted. Though I really enjoy Sandor "the Hound" in the show. I think Rory McCann does a brilliant job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meera of Tarth Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 6 hours ago, Lord_Ravenstone said: Seriously? O.o for the lulz? It was pointless at the end but at least Asha appeared and showed she would risk her life for her brother. I liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meera of Tarth Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 1 hour ago, HairGrowsBack said: I know, right ? I think GRRM really dropped the ball with this one. Same. Music is better in the show LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knight of Flours Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 The TV series beats the books in that fans can expect a new one every year until the story ends. Also - the casting has been mostly amazing. There are a few who I don't think have done the characters justice (Loras for one) but in many cases, the actors have brought the characters to life and made me love or hate them even more than George's writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearodh Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Agree with many points that were made. Some that have not been discussed much yet: 1) Season 1 where Khal Drogo slays his Bloodrider. I was so sad that this was the only fight scene we got to see from the actor. 2) Viper vs Mountain was great. Book scene was hard to beat but for me, they did it. 3) I appreciate many ppl being a lot older than in the books, e.g. Missandei. 4) Varys and Littlefinger interaction is better than the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robasp2 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Tyrions dialogues to Jorah and Tyrions dialogues to Danenerys were hands down the best ever. Such deep conversations. Then the Jamie in the bath scene.. Epic writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMario Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 19 hours ago, Humble AK said: It's half-and-half. Game, Clash and Storm are better than the show, but the show is better than Feast and Dance. Things the show did better that hasn't been mentioned: - Talisa over Jeyne Westerling and the Red Wedding. - No Lady Stoneheart. - Sansa's North story line. - Tyrion's Essos story line. - Dorne (yes, it was really bad in the books and the show, but at least in the show it's much briefer than the books, so in this case lack of quantity is proportional to quality). -Jon as Lord Commander was superior in the show. -Dany's Meereen story line was superior in the show. I hope some of these were in jest because most of your mentioned items are far worse in the show. Talisa was one of the worse decisions the show made. You could argue either way about Lady Stoneheart, but the revenge against the Freys is a great part of the books. I almost choked when I read about Sansa's north story line. Her "rape makes me a strong person" angle might be the most laugh-worthy part of the entire show. Tyrion's was better in the sense that they sped some things up and took out Penny, for now. You can't say Dorne was better in the show. Between the horrible sand snake scenes and the fact that it was pretty much irrelevant makes it worse. Jon as Lord Commander is nowhere near as good in the show as in the books. He basically goes from LC to stabbed in about 10 minutes. At least the book developed his role as the LC and when he was stabbed, it was at least explained. I actually agree with Dany especially in ADWD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ravenstone Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 5 hours ago, The Knight of Flours said: The TV series beats the books in that fans can expect a new one every year until the story ends. Also - the casting has been mostly amazing. There are a few who I don't think have done the characters justice (Loras for one) but in many cases, the actors have brought the characters to life and made me love or hate them even more than George's writing. Finn Jones is great. It's the bad writing that really brought him down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 The Giant Archer: Wildings' simple bow and arrows could not reach the heights described I found distracting. Having a Giant with a Bow and Arrow resolved this issue. We also a Nightwatch man impaled by one of the arrow which was one of the best moments in Watchers On The Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForTheNorth Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Arya and Tywins conversations are brilliant. Really rounds out Tywin character. Some points you almost think he's a decent guy then a minute later he orders the slaughter of innocents. Well done Robb Stark far better fleshed out as a character. Kinda unravels a bit towards the end of season 3 but still solid and far more than we get in the books Battle of Blackwater, Stannis leading from the front, Tyrions rallying speech was better. The boat bridge would've been cool but obviously production costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble AK Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 On 4/18/2016 at 1:15 PM, Joan Jett said: How? Uh, where to begin? Hardhome is the most obvious example. That was probably one of the most thrilling moments ever portrayed on television; nothing in Jon's story line in Dance was the most thrilling moment ever portrayed in books. A few other things. Kit Harrington did an awesome job as Jon in this season and really brought him alive. Everything from his election, the execution of Janos Slynt, his interactions with Stannis, Davos and Mel - all of this was superior to what was done in the books. And Jon felt more like a leader in the show - toward the end of the books, I was kind of rooting for the Night's Watch to murder Jon, as they so predictably planned to. People complain about the Olly glares telecasting Jon's fate in the show, but pretty much every interaction Jon had in the book telecasted the treachery in the books - almost all the Night's Watch was a glaring Olly in the books. Also, speaking of Olly, I really liked him in the show. I enjoyed Jon's mentorship of him, and even though it was predictable that Olly would turn traitor, knowing what I did of what would happen to Jon from the books, it certainly didn't stop me from liking his character. In fact, I found pretty much all of the North (Sansa's scenes included, but mostly Jon and Stannis) to be some of my favorite story lines of the entire series, books and show. Although I will grant that Theon book was superior to anything in season 5 of the show. But Jon was superior, Sansa was superior, and Stannis was about the same for show and book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 17 minutes ago, Humble AK said: Uh, where to begin? Hardhome is the most obvious example. That was probably one of the most thrilling moments ever portrayed on television; nothing in Jon's story line in Dance was the most thrilling moment ever portrayed in books. A few other things. Kit Harrington did an awesome job as Jon in this season and really brought him alive. Everything from his election, the execution of Janos Slynt, his interactions with Stannis, Davos and Mel - all of this was superior to what was done in the books. And Jon felt more like a leader in the show - toward the end of the books, I was kind of rooting for the Night's Watch to murder Jon, as they so predictably planned to. People complain about the Olly glares telecasting Jon's fate in the show, but pretty much every interaction Jon had in the book telecasted the treachery in the books - almost all the Night's Watch was a glaring Olly in the books. Also, speaking of Olly, I really liked him in the show. I enjoyed Jon's mentorship of him, and even though it was predictable that Olly would turn traitor, knowing what I did of what would happen to Jon from the books, it certainly didn't stop me from liking his character. In fact, I found pretty much all of the North (Sansa's scenes included, but mostly Jon and Stannis) to be some of my favorite story lines of the entire series, books and show. Although I will grant that Theon book was superior to anything in season 5 of the show. But Jon was superior, Sansa was superior, and Stannis was about the same for show and book. Say what you like about Stannis' show storyline, but it was affecting and emotional and dramatic. None of which could be said about his book counterpart , which was dry and methodical, lacking any sort of emotional urgency or interest. I barely noticed Stannis was in the last book first time round, but he was one of the highlights of season 5. That's an improvement for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Writhen Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 It's debatable as to whether Oberyn is better in book or show. Other than that, I can't think of anything. The show's Mountain / Viper fight was very different from the book's, but I found them equally awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow4President Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Humble AK said: A few other things. Kit Harrington did an awesome job as Jon in this season and really brought him alive. Everything from his election, the execution of Janos Slynt, his interactions with Stannis, Davos and Mel - all of this was superior to what was done in the books. And Jon felt more like a leader in the show - toward the end of the books, I was kind of rooting for the Night's Watch to murder Jon, as they so predictably planned to. People complain about the Olly glares telecasting Jon's fate in the show, but pretty much every interaction Jon had in the book telecasted the treachery in the books - almost all the Night's Watch was a glaring Olly in the books. I'm not bothering with the rest of the post because I literally cannot comprehend how someone who has read both can make those claims. I'm not saying I disagree, I am saying I literally cannot understand what causes you to think that way, which is a new thing for me. Just please explain how you can possibly say the bolded. Because as opposed to Jon's entire story being about the sacrifices and individual decisions he is making to maintain the Watch, we have 2 and only 2 leadership decisions from Jon, one of which was also made in the books, and is present thematically in the books (meritocratic based assignments, which is why he promotes Thorne in show). I guess that and swinging a sword really fast are all leadership really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksky Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 The show is not a boring, slow-paced, tangled mess of a million plot threads, dead-end and dragged out storylines, excessive focus on traveling and food, and over a thousand characters. It actually happens. We are assured to get it each year. And we can be sure of getting an ending to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettes Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 - Aryas storyline from season 2-4 - The conversations with Robert and Cercei. - Cercei and Margearry being expanded on - Tywin and Robb getting more screen-time and expanding their characters - small characters as Bronn, Yoren and Locke - Hardhome and The battle for the wall (Blackwater was incredible in the books aswell) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainTheo Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 For the last season it's thin on the ground, but I'll go with: * No Penny * Bringing back Jaqen as Arya's mentor * Aemon dies of old age * High Sparrow * Some Bronn/Varys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubicante Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The show has done a much better job of showing an army which is completely unstoppable during the night. This of course being Ramsay Bolton and his 20 good men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendel Shoemaker Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I disagree with most points here as I have a hard time thinking of something I thought was done better in the show. I found Hardhome to be enjoyable, but I wouldn't say it's better than the book since it never happened in the book (yet). I like that they aged up the characters, but I don't like how they didn't think of the consequences of doing so with characters like Tommen. I liked that Shireen was more involved, she was great despite what they did to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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