TheSerb Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Were they really from the BwB? Because the BwB are followers of LoL but if that's so why didn't they burn them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErasmusF Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Perhaps it was another band of brigands last seen in the Riverlands - the Brave Companions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiel's Child Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, ErasmusF said: Perhaps it was another band of brigands last seen in the Riverlands - the Brave Companions. That's very interesting. Could there be a connection with Qyburn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TickTak7 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 The musical cue was interesting when they appeared - sinister and villainous. My guess is that the Brotherhood that we met initially, is no longer the same Brotherhood that we saw. Maybe it's fallen apart after the war, or maybe it's just a group of rogues / renegades. Perhaps we find out more as Sandor goes on his revenge quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarcho Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Just the show messed up, I think. The BwB have been seen before, so it's easier to use tham rather than introduce a new band of brigands. Still, it's very hard to explain the shift. While in BwB do shift when leadership passes from Beric to Lady Stoneheart, they're still clearly an emotionally motivated group with a specific purpose, not just a random group of warriors doing whatever they feel like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghosts in winterfell Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 4 hours ago, duysim said: Because lady stoneheart is the leader of the bwb. And she heard the story of the mother who's son got murderd in front of her eyes. Then stoneheart demand the bwb to kill them all and hang that guy who killed that boy. Bingo. This definitely has LSH's handiwork written all over it, imo. We don't know who any of these people were, but I sense a strong implication that the septon was directly involved in the Red Wedding. The others? Perhaps fellow Freys or Lannisters who share his remorse, and maybe the BwB have been tailing them for some time. And since it looks like both Jamie and Brienne are in the Riverlands, the timing is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil' ghost Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 6 hours ago, The Great and Mighty Poo said: Because potatoes. I'm not sure why, but I just laughed for 10 minutes after reading this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Cambodia Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 10 minutes ago, lil' ghost said: I'm not sure why, but I just laughed for 10 minutes after reading this... Is the best answer. It was just really crass writing. What a waste of a great actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Because religion? That's the only reason I can think of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowKnight Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 45 minutes ago, ErasmusF said: Perhaps it was another band of brigands last seen in the Riverlands - the Brave Companions. There are no Brave Companions on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerJimmyJangle Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, GallowKnight said: There are no Brave Companions on the show. Indeed; HBO has already confirmed that the yellow-cloaked man is Lem Lemoncloak: http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/season-6/episode-7/people/230/lem-lemoncloak "A member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, Lem raided Brother Ray's community." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagganaro Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 One word: Stoneheart. Seems pretty clear that a sizable faction of the Brotherhood has turned against their so-called mission statement, as suggested in the books by Thoros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErasmusF Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 1 hour ago, GallowKnight said: There are no Brave Companions on the show. Well yes and no. Amory Locke's men captured Jaime and took his hand off. That wasn't the BwB. 1 hour ago, SerJimmyJangle said: Indeed; HBO has already confirmed that the yellow-cloaked man is Lem Lemoncloak: http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/season-6/episode-7/people/230/lem-lemoncloak "A member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, Lem raided Brother Ray's community." Well that stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonisHenryTudor Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 8 hours ago, Jon Snow Bengal said: Yes and none of them heard the wood chopping by Sandor & he didn't hear the screaming or slicing either. Well we don't know how far away Sandor was, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 10 hours ago, SaChr222 said: I take it that the guy on the horse who septon Ray was talking to was Lem.(because of the orange cloak) So why would bwb kill innocent people, when they were the only ones that swore to protect them. Because in the book they become corrupted over time by the influence of Lady Stoneheart and her hate. She takes them down a different path and killing anyone she doesn't approve of is part of that. Lem is a pretty nasty piece of work in the book when Brienne last encounters him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeIAF Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Because Stoneheart is leading them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Martin Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 With all this talk about fake-Arya, I'm surprised no one suggested Fake BWB here? We get re-introduced to the BwB by the Freys who are reeling on multiple fronts. Lord Walder complains about the Blackfish at Riverrun, the BwB and a few other items. He also notes specifically that the smallfolk love the BwB. He then reveals the plan he hatched to re-take Riverrun. But what is his plan for the BwB? So far military might hasn't been enough. So the next best option is take away their support from the smallfolk. But how to get the smallfolk to turn against the BwB? I think those men were Freys claiming to be the BwB. This is Lord Walder's plan to get the smallfolk to turn on the BwB. The fake BwB did a little re-con and made sure people knew who wanted their food before they left. They then returned to kill everyone, left behind the food they claimed they wanted and even left a survivor to tell the tale. There really is no motivation for the BwB to kill innocent smallfolk, even those who worship the seven. The Freys, on the other hand, have every incentive to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Snow Bengal Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Lord Martin said: With all this talk about fake-Arya, I'm surprised no one suggested Fake BWB here? We get re-introduced to the BwB by the Freys who are reeling on multiple fronts. Lord Walder complains about the Blackfish at Riverrun, the BwB and a few other items. He also notes specifically that the smallfolk love the BwB. He then reveals the plan he hatched to re-take Riverrun. But what is his plan for the BwB? So far military might hasn't been enough. So the next best option is take away their support from the smallfolk. But how to get the smallfolk to turn against the BwB? I think those men were Freys claiming to be the BwB. This is Lord Walder's plan to get the smallfolk to turn on the BwB. The fake BwB did a little re-con and made sure people knew who wanted their food before they left. They then returned to kill everyone, left behind the food they claimed they wanted and even left a survivor to tell the tale. There really is no motivation for the BwB to kill innocent smallfolk, even those who worship the seven. The Freys, on the other hand, have every incentive to do it. Nope, not going to happen, way too much brain work. That toast that Walder Frey is giving in the trailor is baffling though.... unless they spend screen time explaining this tiny little detail of their crappy plan then not going to happen. I like it though. How many episodes left? Maybe they're just trying to feed a pack of dogs roaming the riverlands.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoCount Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Really folks? Some of you seem to be putting way too much thought into the whole thing. To me it seems like a simple religious purge with poor peasants getting the pointy end of swords. The red Witch likes to find an excuse to burn those who don't fall in line with her Red God. Send out the troops to kill, just give them instructions to focus on followers of The Seven. Simple concepts, simple results. If you are the priest in charge (whomever that might be), sending out the troops makes it easier to feed your remaining troops. Blame and retribution from Kings Landing, if they actually even worry about it, will be pointed at roving bands of thieves rather than anything deeper and darker. Keep your followers pumped up to kill non-believers, Get a bit of plunder. What more would a priest of the Red God want? If that was the simple reason, the question comes up as to why they outright killed them rather than burning them. The answer would be that killing keeps the possibilities wide open for who might have done the dirty deed but mass burnings would point the finger right at the Red God. Maybe I am just trying to over simplify things but until something shows up in later episodes to contradict my idea, I am sticking with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa's Hairnet Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 4 hours ago, Tianzi said: Did they at least take the stuff? Brother Ray's gold necklace with the 7 star emblem was missing when they showed his body hanging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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