Lordsteve666 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Can anyone stateside explain to me (if anyone even has a clue) what exactly the FBI is doing right now? Because going by the reports here it looks like they've gone from "impartial, don't interfere in the election" to "fuck it, let's just trawl up any and every piece of old dirt that might invoke the name Clinton even if it utterly fucks the election up". I thought the release of that letter at the weekend was pretty low for them at such a time but they just seem to have gone full on into trying to ruin the democrat campaign. What are they expecting to get out of this, surely this will destroy any sort of credibility they might have as an organisation. How will the public trust them if they are so biased in this election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRider Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 24 minutes ago, Commodore said: why worry when both outcomes are awful? I'll let you know when that's that the case. I am sure, since you feel that way, that you sat out the election, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 hour ago, White Walker Texas Ranger said: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/10/clinton_vs_trump_whose_crimes_are_worse.html Good comparison, though it misses some of the Clintons' shady finances and the Juanita Broderick stuff. I'd be fairly unhappy the Primary debates were apparently rigged by the DNC to favour Clinton if I'd voted in them as well, it's pretty sleazy. It all pales in comparison to Trump though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, BloodRider said: I'll let you know when that's that the case. I am sure, since you feel that way, that you sat out the election, right? lol, of course he didn't. He condemned Trump and then voted for him just like his idol Ted Cruz did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Quote I would not go that far. Given Clinton's background, I would guess that she does in fact care about this issue -- but she is way too far from ordinary women to understand their most important concerns. I don't think this is remotely true. A good example of this is her explanation of her view on abortion rights in the third debate, especially late-term abortion, where she dropped some of her guarded facade and was quite clearly very sympathetic to everyone involved. I doubt that she has had a late-term abortion (they're very uncommon) but it's obvious that she could sympathize. Her platform consistently being about important issues for women also belies this. Her pledge in China - CHINA of all places - that women's rights are human rights when she was first lady also belies this. Mostly, I think that this election has shown precisely how she is treated first and foremost as a woman, not as a politician or candidate or anything. The election would be an absurd win for her if this had anything to do with policy. It would be an absurd win for her if it had anything to do with qualifications or ability to govern. But it isn't, and unlike @zelticgar's baying about how horrible she is, most people believe that there's just nothing there that's particularly problematic. Especially compared to Trump. Can you imagine the outrage if Romney hadn't paid taxes for 18 years and the way he did so was by exploiting a loophole in the tax code that ended up causing $425m in other people's losses? Or if McCain had started a charity and used charity funds to refurbish his fountain or buy a helmet of Tebow? Come on, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, BloodRider said: I'll let you know when that's that the case. I am sure, since you feel that way, that you sat out the election, right? I'm voting straight GOP down ticket, not sure what I'm going to do for POTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris the Blade Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 14 minutes ago, BloodRider said: Speaking of which, I heard a report on NPR where the reporter went on St0rmfurnt (mispelled sos not to drive traffic or get hits) and found that even they thought that Trump was going to trash the economy, but they didn't care because Trump was gonna fuck up the minority races (only that's not the words they used) I am not going there to verify, I will just take NPR at their word. Wouldn't shock me. That places is a fucking cesspool. I had the unfortunate experience of encountering a few people that frequent it. They don't care about anything but people of color being wiped out even at the expense of economic interests. They're that fucking irrational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 26 minutes ago, Mexal said: Fun times in some new polls. Nevada looks like an outlier compared to what we've seen before and what has been reported based on early voting. Arizona looks good for Trump. If Florida and PA are accurate though, doesn't much matter what he does. Here's an update on Nevada. Seems CNN's polling under-represents Hispanics in Nevada... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris the Blade Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 29 minutes ago, Lordsteve666 said: Can anyone stateside explain to me (if anyone even has a clue) what exactly the FBI is doing right now? Because going by the reports here it looks like they've gone from "impartial, don't interfere in the election" to "fuck it, let's just trawl up any and every piece of old dirt that might invoke the name Clinton even if it utterly fucks the election up". I thought the release of that letter at the weekend was pretty low for them at such a time but they just seem to have gone full on into trying to ruin the democrat campaign. What are they expecting to get out of this, surely this will destroy any sort of credibility they might have as an organisation. How will the public trust them if they are so biased in this election? It just looks like Comey is a partisan hack piece of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 That Nevada poll has Trump winning Clark County 46-45. If you believe that, I have one hell of a bridge to sell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tijgy Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 23 minutes ago, Lordsteve666 said: Can anyone stateside explain to me (if anyone even has a clue) what exactly the FBI is doing right now? Because going by the reports here it looks like they've gone from "impartial, don't interfere in the election" to "fuck it, let's just trawl up any and every piece of old dirt that might invoke the name Clinton even if it utterly fucks the election up". I thought the release of that letter at the weekend was pretty low for them at such a time but they just seem to have gone full on into trying to ruin the democrat campaign. What are they expecting to get out of this, surely this will destroy any sort of credibility they might have as an organisation. How will the public trust them if they are so biased in this election? She did ask them to release the information they have ... I think there is a sort of mutiny. There were some rumors some FBI agents were not happy with Comey's decision and were organizing a revolt against him (not really sure that was true). There are also rumors that Comey was kept in dark several weeks about those mails. And there might also be investigations by four seperate FBI bureaus into the Clinton foundation, which your DOJ might have to stop. And now the democrates also criticizing them for influencing the elections. So maybe the FBI thought (censored) and released those documents and leaked those investigations so the DOJ would feel pressed to aid those investigations. Or it is just revenge for how Clinton is now treating them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartIheartTesla Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 I would seriously suggest everyone stop looking at single state polls from now onwards. It just leads to everyone cherry picking their favorite/disfavored polls. If there are 10 polls sampling Florida right now, about 5 of them may show Clinton ahead and 5 Trump ahead, and then everyone will go through the weeds to try to justify why one particular poll is wrong (or right). You might trust in the average or median mor eso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariadne23 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 3 hours ago, Boris the Blade said: Oh, and to people saying even though they are white cis males they are still worried, what I was basically implying is you do not have to worry about being oppressed and targeted. Lack of religion or a different religion will not matter since you are white and those bigoted people automatically assume the default religious position is christian. I don't feel particularly oppressed or targeted by the Trump campaign as a woman either, frankly. Trump the individual is the problem there, and he'll still be out there groping people whether he's President or not. If I was a racial or religious minority, I'd be terrified of being targeted. But setting aside the issue of targeting, I have basic existential fears about the existence of a future republic, nuclear holocaust, etc. that go beyond matters of discrimination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariadne23 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 51 minutes ago, Lordsteve666 said: Can anyone stateside explain to me (if anyone even has a clue) what exactly the FBI is doing right now? Violating Huma Abedin's 4th Amendment rights. Everyone who investigates Hillary goes spectacularly off the deep end eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 37 minutes ago, Mexal said: Here's an update on Nevada. Seems CNN's polling under-represents Hispanics in Nevada... Well, the original tweeter is assuming the reason Hispanics are N/A is above is because they "didn't have enough Hispanics to break out the data" in the chart. But perhaps there is some other reason, like they just didn't as a question about Hispanic heritage in their poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ormond said: Well, the original tweeter is assuming the reason Hispanics are N/A is above is because they "didn't have enough Hispanics to break out the data" in the chart. But perhaps there is some other reason, like they just didn't as a question about Hispanic heritage in their poll. Possible but if they do that, they're still going to have one massive polling error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris the Blade Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Oh man. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-camp-nv-gop-ordered-appear-court-voter-intimidation-lawsuit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Trump just casually mentioned in a speech that Wikileaks will be releasing more stuff later today and that he'll talk about it tomorrow. If there's any sort of active investigation into Trump's connections, I sure hope they're paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigima Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 So is Trump acknowledging collusion with Assange? With Russian-sponsored hacking? How does he know what Wikileaks plans to release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris the Blade Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Inigima said: So is Trump acknowledging collusion with Assange? With Russian-sponsored hacking? How does he know what Wikileaks plans to release? Who cares??!!!! Clinton's emails!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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