Shi Qiang Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 You heard it from me. Tyrion sent everyone on that expedition to get rid of Dany's potential heirs. He brought up the subject because he was hoping Dany would name him as her heir. I want you all to consider. The Dothraki, Unsullied, and the Dragons will never fight for Tyrion. They only have loyalty for Dany. He needs Dany to win the throne for him. The wight hunting expedition gets rid of Jorah and Jon. Two potential people who might get in his way. Dany will win the throne. Tyrion can then plan his moves to get rid of her. No Jon, no Jorah, no one to inherit except him. I am almost positive that Dany is on to Tyrion. She's playing him too. She will root him out and either burn him or send him to the Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Mother Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Definitely interesting, I just don't see it. I've seen no evident signs of it. If I think of the circumstances that led him to Daenerys, it would have to be a scheme he made up while in her service. I'm not sure I've seen signs of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandean Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 It's an interesting theory but I don't personally see it. He could definitely be second guessing his choice for backing Dany though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirePenguin Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Didn't Jorah volunteer by himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell_Tarly Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Allardyce said: You heard it from me. Tyrion sent everyone on that expedition to get rid of Dany's potential heirs. He brought up the subject because he was hoping Dany would name him as her heir. I want you all to consider. The Dothraki, Unsullied, and the Dragons will never fight for Tyrion. They only have loyalty for Dany. He needs Dany to win the throne for him. The wight hunting expedition gets rid of Jorah and Jon. Two potential people who might get in his way. Dany will win the throne. Tyrion can then plan his moves to get rid of her. No Jon, no Jorah, no one to inherit except him. I am almost positive that Dany is on to Tyrion. She's playing him too. She will root him out and either burn him or send him to the Wall. LOL... sorry but very creative and wild imagination. Tyrion sent no one.... Im sorry but this isnt evidence and its not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I wish that was true. But I don't think Tyrion is doing anything except mope about and say occasionally wise mottos. His character seems mostly irrelevant now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkel Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 We did hear it from you. And promptly rejected it as pure crackpottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryaWaifMe Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Dany told him to not be a hero and I think in the next episode he will be a hero, there is now only 2 dragons left to ride. Time to get rid of a Targaryen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teej6 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Allardyce said: You heard it from me. Tyrion sent everyone on that expedition to get rid of Dany's potential heirs. He brought up the subject because he was hoping Dany would name him as her heir. I want you all to consider. The Dothraki, Unsullied, and the Dragons will never fight for Tyrion. They only have loyalty for Dany. He needs Dany to win the throne for him. The wight hunting expedition gets rid of Jorah and Jon. Two potential people who might get in his way. Dany will win the throne. Tyrion can then plan his moves to get rid of her. No Jon, no Jorah, no one to inherit except him. I am almost positive that Dany is on to Tyrion. She's playing him too. She will root him out and either burn him or send him to the Wall. I like where your mind is at but D&D would never do this to St. Tyrion although he does seem terribly dumb this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teej6 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 53 minutes ago, DirePenguin said: Didn't Jorah volunteer by himself? Yes he did. Though the wight hunt was Tyrion's idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKitteh Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarres Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 This is an interesting theory, but I suppose it highlights that if only one character brings up sensible points it makes him look like a scheming and devious man rather than, well, normal. Succession issues are, alongside foreign invasion, pretty much the major issue plaguing these systems of government. It's entirely reasonable for him to bring this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor's Aunt Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Allardyce said: You heard it from me. Tyrion sent everyone on that expedition to get rid of Dany's potential heirs. .[...] Nice book plot. TV show is just way too simple minded for such a twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princess_snow Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Channel4s-JonSnow said: I wish that was true. But I don't think Tyrion is doing anything except mope about and say occasionally wise mottos. His character seems mostly irrelevant now Nicely put, and I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFT Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 this is buying into what cersei wanted to think about tyrion but was never actually true. tyrion never wanted power, and is horrified when people misuse it. showwise, the worst hes ever done is kill his dad (as well as threaten to murder the crownlanders), and even that was after alot of mindbreaking events and torment. without dany, tyiron would have drunk himself to death somewhere in pentos or volantis and i think he knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elder brother jonothor dar Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 He seemed to suggest democracy. Dany wants to brake the wheel and we all know democracy is the best and only solution... Unless it's 2 wolves (or maybe a wolf and a Dragon in this case) and a lamb voting on what to have got dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhaenysBee Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 No, Tyrion is just stupid, he isn't playing anybody. The time when characters played each other ended in season 4. And yeaaaaah let's have democracy because that's such a perfect and flawless system and never ever in the history of mankind ended badly... and that's what the NW does, that's totally how Dolorous Edd became lord commander and that's what the Ironborn do and man they are so progressed and enlightened, they didn't elect a person who murdered his brother for no reason. my god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari27 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 This theory makes no sense. Tyrion and Varys all ready had a disscusion acknowledging that men like them can never really lead, but can help others to a good job at it. Tyrion being a smart man with long term vision is worried by: a. Danny becoming an evil version of herself b. Of what will happen if she is killed in some way. I think Tyrion is worried for her and his safety in a world where she is gone and cersei is queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemonTheBlack Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Well, yes. For people who have only watched the show, I can understand why they might think this way given recent events. Plot leaks spoiler below - Spoiler The next episode will further reinforce this idea. Tyrion and Cersei will have a partially undisclosed conversation which will make Cersei "see reason" and agree to an alliance, only for us to discover later that she was bluffing to distract her enemies. This leaves room for speculating that Tyrion is party to this bluff. But in the books we know what his going on in Tyrion's head. It will take some serious change of character for Tyrion to do something like that. With that being said, even in the books, Quaithe asks Daenerys to not trust the Lion (among others). And there is the "betrayal for blood" to consider. So it is not impossible that Tyrion might betray her in the future. However I doubt it will be caused due to treachery or maiice on part of Tyrion (he simply lacks those traits as far as we have seen). It might happen if Tyrion finds himself at a crossroad, having to choose between his brother (he owes his life to Jaime) and Daenerys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Hustle Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 hours ago, daemonTheBlack said: Well, yes. For people who have only watched the show, I can understand why they might think this way given recent events. Plot leaks spoiler below - Reveal hidden contents The next episode will further reinforce this idea. Tyrion and Cersei will have a partially undisclosed conversation which will make Cersei "see reason" and agree to an alliance, only for us to discover later that she was bluffing to distract her enemies. This leaves room for speculating that Tyrion is party to this bluff. But in the books we know what his going on in Tyrion's head. It will take some serious change of character for Tyrion to do something like that. With that being said, even in the books, Quaithe asks Daenerys to not trust the Lion (among others). And there is the "betrayal for blood" to consider. So it is not impossible that Tyrion might betray her in the future. However I doubt it will be caused due to treachery or maiice on part of Tyrion (he simply lacks those traits as far as we have seen). It might happen if Tyrion finds himself at a crossroad, having to choose between his brother (he owes his life to Jaime) and Daenerys. Even thats not accurate. Tyroin knows cerscei, and she would enjoy beheading him on sight. The only person in the lannister family he cares about is Jamie, since his niece and nephew (not Joff) is now dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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