NFL Draft Part 2: Who HASN'T said racist things on Twitter when they were a teenager?!?

[DanteGabriel]

14 minutes ago, James Arryn said:

So, did you hear Highsmith’s story on why the Browns decided against Rosen? It’s...I’ll be generous and call it unscientific.

I still don't understand what the point of the story was. Team executive runs into the UCLA women's volleyball team and asks their coach about Rosen, and coach says "Go ask his girlfriend, she's right there." What's the implication? The women's volleyball coach from his school wouldn't say anything nice about him?

[James Arryn]

1 minute ago, DanteGabriel said:

I still don't understand what the point of the story was. Team executive runs into the UCLA women's volleyball team and asks their coach about Rosen, and coach says "Go ask his girlfriend, she's right there." What's the implication? The women's volleyball coach from his school wouldn't say anything nice about him?

I guess, or we’re supposed to infer tone of voice or something. It’s...uh...I wouldn’t want to hear this if I were a Browns fan. And he said this when being asked why not Rosen, so clearly he gave it some kind of weight. 

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

1 hour ago, James Arryn said:

I guess, or we’re supposed to infer tone of voice or something. It’s...uh...I wouldn’t want to hear this if I were a Browns fan. And he said this when being asked why not Rosen, so clearly he gave it some kind of weight. 

Well considering the deciding factor in the last QB the Browns took in the first round was the owner talking to a homeless man, I’d say this is moving in the right direction.

Personally there’s only one thing you’d have to tell me to make me want to draft Rosen: He had the vision and leadership skills to put a hot tub in his college dorm room.  

[sperry]

It's starting to come out that virtually every team had Mayfield #1 on their draft board. The only people surprised by him going off the board 1st are the Mel Kipers and Todd McShays of the world who have virtually no understanding of modern football.

[Maithanet]

29 minutes ago, sperry said:

It's starting to come out that virtually every team had Mayfield #1 on their draft board. The only people surprised by him going off the board 1st are the Mel Kipers and Todd McShays of the world who have virtually no understanding of modern football.

PFF had him #1 overall, and according to them it wasn't particularly close. 

[briantw]

The fact that the Patriots had Mayfield as their number one and were willing to sell the farm to get him if he dropped to two is certainly encouraging.

[Fez]

The Redskins find new lows to sink to...

 

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When the Washington Redskins took their cheerleading squad to Costa Rica in 2013 for a calendar photo shoot, the first cause for concern among the cheerleaders came when Redskins officials collected their passports upon arrival at the resort, depriving them of their official identification.

For the photo shoot, at the adults-only Occidental Grand Papagayo resort on Culebra Bay, some of the cheerleaders said they were required to be topless, though the photographs used for the calendar would not show nudity. Others wore nothing but body paint. Given the resort’s secluded setting, such revealing poses would not have been a concern for the women — except that the Redskins had invited spectators.

A contingent of sponsors and FedExField suite holders — all men — were granted up-close access to the photo shoots.

One evening, at the end of a 14-hour day that included posing and dance practices, the squad’s director told nine of the 36 cheerleaders that their work was not done. They had a special assignment for the night. Some of the male sponsors had picked them to be personal escorts at a nightclub.

“So get back to your room and get ready,” the director told them. Several of them began to cry.

“They weren’t putting a gun to our heads, but it was mandatory for us to go,” one of the cheerleaders said. “We weren’t asked, we were told. Other girls were devastated because we knew exactly what she was doing.”

 

 

[DanteGabriel]

1 hour ago, briantw said:

The fact that the Patriots had Mayfield as their number one and were willing to sell the farm to get him if he dropped to two is certainly encouraging.

I'd be willing to buy that Belichick had Mayfield rated highest, but I'm not sure you can trust that they would have moved up to 2. Josh McDaniels admitted that they told Mayfield's agent they were considering moving up because Mayfield didn't want to visit the team otherwise.

[DanteGabriel]

19 minutes ago, Fez said:

The Redskins find new lows to sink to...

 

 

There was a New York Times story where they were sending cheerleaders into fans' homes to hang out during games.

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Several years ago, she said, she and five teammates were told to drive to an address the Redskins had given them. To their surprise, it was not a business — it was a house. Inside, there was no party, no charity event, or even a large gathering of people. There were seven men in their 40s who quickly sized up the cheerleaders.

“O.K., who’s single and who’s married?” said the homeowner, according to the former cheerleader.

The men were drinking and asked the women to join in, but they declined. Then the women did a two-minute dance for the men in the basement and spent the rest of the afternoon walking around the house or having awkward conversations with the men while they were watching an N.F.L. game on TV.

“It was sketchy because we were in some dude’s house, some random house, and it was physically uncomfortable to be there,” the cheerleader said.

The way this cheerleader saw it, it was unfair that the team was making money off its cheerleaders who were paid so little. Someone just had to call the team and the managers would ask, “How many girls do you want for how many hours?” and “Do you want the girls to dance, or not?”

“It’s literally like you’re calling for an escort,” the cheerleader said, recalling that she was paid $100 for a promotional event, while the team would charge $1,200 per cheerleader.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/sports/cheerleaders-nfl.html

Charging fans money with no vetting and sending unprepared cheerleaders into unsafe situations while giving them 8% of the fee you charged for them is so very very Dan Snyder. I bet he and Brucie were three martinis and two rails into a working lunch when that idea crystallized.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

Sounds like they’d have a slam dunk lawsuit. This also goes to show how little the NFL cares about women.

Side note, why are cheerleaders still a thing?

[Jaime L]

1 hour ago, DanteGabriel said:

There was a New York Times story where they were sending cheerleaders into fans' homes to hang out during games.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/sports/cheerleaders-nfl.html

Charging fans money with no vetting and sending unprepared cheerleaders into unsafe situations while giving them 8% of the fee you charged for them is so very very Dan Snyder. I bet he and Brucie were three martinis and two rails into a working lunch when that idea crystallized.

#Heroes

 

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

13 minutes ago, Jaime L said:

#Heroes

 

Oh the pride and joy of being a NFL fan...

[Kalbear]

#whistles innocently

[Rhom]

1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said:

Side note, why are cheerleaders still a thing?

Have you tried watching a Redskins game recently?

[sperry]

6 hours ago, DanteGabriel said:

I'd be willing to buy that Belichick had Mayfield rated highest, but I'm not sure you can trust that they would have moved up to 2. Josh McDaniels admitted that they told Mayfield's agent they were considering moving up because Mayfield didn't want to visit the team otherwise.

They would have been insane not to trade up for him if they valued him highly. If you value a quarterback highly, you do everything in your power to get them.

[Jace, Extat]

4 hours ago, Rhom said:

Have you tried watching a Redskins game recently?

People watch that shit? I thought it was a myth. Like German dungeon porn.

[dbunting]

6 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

Side note, why are cheerleaders still a thing?

This is my question as well. Detroit didn't have cheerleaders until last season, or the season before and made the genius move to add them. They serve zero purpose at a professional level except to be sold for profit on calendars, videos, meet and greets etc. It's something that in this day and age just needs to end.

The PFF draft rankings are so radically different than most others. I remember reviewing it and thinking it was a joke at first. The more you read the logic and analytics behind their rankings the more sense it made.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

Witten makes it official, he has announced his retirement.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

The more I think about this Washington scandal, the more disgusted I get. This should be the top news story on every sports site, and it’s largely going ignored. What happened was flat out illegal. Furthermore, they did it to employees who were overworked and underpaid. If Snyder was a CEO and not an owner, the board of executives would have already forced his resignation, if not flat out firing him. The NFL needs to come down HARD on Washington. Max fines for everyone involved, and personally, I’d strip them of their next two first round picks, and warn every other team in the legal that they will all be investigated and the same punishment will be handed down for any team caught doing anything similar.  

[Maithanet]

16 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

The more I think about this Washington scandal, the more disgusted I get. This should be the top news story on every sports site, and it’s largely going ignored. What happened was flat out illegal. Furthermore, they did it to employees who were overworked and underpaid. If Snyder was a CEO and not an owner, the board of executives would have already forced his resignation, if not flat out firing him. The NFL needs to come down HARD on Washington. Max fines for everyone involved, and personally, I’d strip them of their next two first round picks, and warn every other team in the legal that they will all be investigated and the same punishment will be handed down for any team caught doing anything similar.  

I would be delighted if the NFL threw the book at them. Personally I think that a huge settlement (tens of millions) divided between the cheerleaders involved and some charities would be better.  Dan Snyder wants a winner who makes money, but if he has to choose between a team that wins and a team that makes money, he'll take the money every time.