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Wow, what a brave man Trump is, taking shits at John McCain.

eta: lol, talk about Freudian errors made because letters are beside each other on the keyboard. The was supposed to be 'shots', but shits works too.

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Uncle Joe announces his candidacy in the most Uncle Joe way possible, by gaffe:

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In a keynote speech at a dinner for the Delaware Democratic Party, Biden boasted Saturday that he has “the most progressive record of anybody running.” The only problem is that Biden hasn’t announced whether he will launch a third run for the White House, despite repeatedly teasing the possibility.

He quickly corrected himself, clarifying that he meant to say “anybody who would run,” then adding “I didn’t mean it” while a cheering crowd in his home state nearly drowned him out.

 

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Stay classy GOP. Using St Paddy's day to attack O'Rourke for his dui.

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2 hours ago, Gertrude said:

Stay classy GOP. Using St Paddy's day to attack O'Rourke for his dui.

Nothing like using stereotypes, right?

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3 hours ago, Fragile Bird said:

Wow, what a brave man Trump is, taking shits at John McCain.

Its the most perplexing aspect to this disgraceful administration, how he manages to have so little integrity, self dealing with charity money, the lies upon lies, the constant tantrums and disparaging behavior, not to mention the illegalities committed by this admin. , that even with all those clouds this crass being, somehow manages to have +30% support from somewhere?

I would think a support range of around 10% would be what i'd expect for someone so clearly lacking in any redeemable aspect. I just do not get this Presidency at all, its a very surreal feeling having this embarrasment as our President.

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1 hour ago, DireWolfSpirit said:

Its the most perplexing aspect to this disgraceful administration, how he manages to have so little integrity, self dealing with charity money, the lies upon lies, the constant tantrums and disparaging behavior, not to mention the illegalities committed by this admin. , that even with all those clouds this crass being, somehow manages to have +30% support from somewhere?

I would think a support range of around 10% would be what i'd expect for someone so clearly lacking in any redeemable aspect. I just do not get this Presidency at all, its a very surreal feeling having this embarrasment as our President.

Well, when you spend your entire life hating Democrats, it only makes sense to make a pile of liquid feces into the President. I mean, what would could they possibly hate more? 

 

Trump Begs Fox News To ‘Bring Back’ Jeanine Pirro After Her Rant About Ilhan Omar’s Hijab
“Stop working sooooo hard on being politically correct,” the president tweeted after the network didn’t air Pirro’s Saturday show.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jeanine-pirro-fox-news_n_5c8e6360e4b0db7da9f48f43

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President Donald Trump on Sunday implored Fox News to “bring back” host Jeanine Pirro after her show was omitted from the Saturday night lineup following disparaging remarks she made about a Muslim lawmaker a week earlier.

“The Radical Left Democrats, working closely with their beloved partner, the Fake News Media, is using every trick in the book to SILENCE a majority of our Country,” the president tweeted. ”[Fox News] must stay strong and fight back with vigor.”

He added: “Stop working sooooo hard on being politically correct, which will only bring you down. ... Be strong & prosper, be weak & die!”

 

 

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Look, I can agree with you about Social Security, right? But when I hear that, I think about my great-grandparents. And it’s nice that, at this point in time, that we have a Social Security program that we would support. But the price of that was my great-grandparents not being eligible for it. Do you understand what I’m saying? Actual people, because of how Social Security was actually passed, because of who could qualify for it and who could not. So I can’t in my mind say, “It’s fine because it all worked out in the end.” Do you understand what I’m saying?

Absolutely.

That was fucked-up. It was fucked-up how it was passed. Period. And I think we need to acknowledge that. And that doesn’t mean we throw it out right now, but it means that we’re mindful going forward, in how we design social programs.

Right. So you’re saying, at this point, a Democratic government (almost certainly) wouldn’t consciously write de jure racial restrictions into a universal welfare program. But if we aren’t actively thinking about how the reality of white supremacy could affect that policy’s implementation or efficacy in the real world, de facto racial restrictions could creep in. Which is basically what’s happened with the Medicaid expansion, as a result of Democrats neglecting to federalize it.

Yeah. And I know this didn’t work in every state — I’m not sure that it did work in any state — but consider the carve-outs that people were trying to use to throw people off food stamps. It just happened. All sorts of things. I think you really need, to my mind, to pay explicit attention to this. You have to be on your guard. The notion that you can just program the machine to be colorblind, and walk away, ignores the fact that there are actually going to be people who have power, who like this country the way it is. Who, even if they don’t want to say it, enjoy the fact that there is in fact a wealth gap in this country.

 

Ta-Nehisi Coates Is an Optimist Now A conversation about race and 2020.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/ta-nehisi-coates-race-politics-2020-elections.html

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48 minutes ago, Lollygag said:

On Beto's DUI, I guess the current forms of racism aren't enough, so they're bringing back the oldies. 

https://www.theroot.com/when-the-irish-weren-t-white-1793358754

Really weird to bring this up since W was an alcoholic and did coke back in the day yet that didn't seem to matter.

Will the Scots-Irish of West Virginia vote against the GOP now that they're trading in anti-Irish stereotypes?  

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15 minutes ago, Triskele said:

Will the Scots-Irish of West Virginia vote against the GOP now that they're trading in anti-Irish stereotypes?  

I didn't think they'd buy a self-proclaimed billionaire as the savior of the poor and increasingly poorer working class. Clearly I was wrong. :dunno:

Actually, the Scotch-Irish were Protestant Scots who were from Northern Ireland and they only used the Scotch- prefix to distinguish themselves from the Catholic Irish who came later and experienced a lot of discrimination. But I don't think many know that. I live in an Appalachian state and have lot of Scotch-Irish ancestors and had no idea until recently. 

https://www.americanheritage.com/scotch-irish

 

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The hyphenated term “Scotch-Irish” is an Americanism, generally unknown in Scotland and Ireland and rarely used by British historians. In American usage it refers to people of Scottish descent who, having lived for a time in the north of Ireland, migrated in considerable numbers to the American colonies during the half century before the Revolutionary War. Perhaps 250,000 of them actually crossed the sea to America, and they bred rapidly; their sons, like later arrivals from Ulster, constantly extended settlements westward to the Appalachians. The mountains then sent the flow of newcomers north and especially south from Pennsylvania until they constituted a dominant element in many colonies.

Only occasionally were these people then called Scotch-Irish; the usual designation was simply “Irish.” “Scotch-Irish” is accurate, yet many Irish-American critics assert that it is an appellation born of snobbish pride and prejudice. They are not entirely wrong. During the years of immigration, from 1717 to 1775, none of the newcomers seem to have insisted upon the “Scotch” part of the name; this insistence developed only among their descendants, and for interesting reasons.

 

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6 hours ago, Lollygag said:

I didn't think they'd buy a self-proclaimed billionaire as the savior of the poor and increasingly poorer working class. Clearly I was wrong. :dunno:

Actually, the Scotch-Irish were Protestant Scots who were from Northern Ireland and they only used the Scotch- prefix to distinguish themselves from the Catholic Irish who came later and experienced a lot of discrimination. But I don't think many know that. I live in an Appalachian state and have lot of Scotch-Irish ancestors and had no idea until recently. 

https://www.americanheritage.com/scotch-irish

 

 

Anyone who reads the Outlander books know about it!

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In the ongoing series "Twitter is not real life," Beto just announced his fundraising total for his first 24-hours and...

Seems like it was just yesterday that political twitter was saying that Beto wasn't announcing his numbers because they were bad and that his campaign was over already.

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So it appears more like - wait for the Monday news cycle so everyone can talk about it all day. I fucking hate politicians. I know it's the game and this is such a small piece but sometimes something reminds me again that this is a game and politics is and always has been a dog and pony show and it's so fucking broken. Or actually not broken at all because it's doing what it was perhaps designed by the first cavemen to do - give people an opportunity to grab power and money and influence. In that case, it's working pretty well.

Unexpected mini-rant. I wasn't expecting to go that route, but I feel better now so, good morning :)

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1 hour ago, Fez said:

In the ongoing series "Twitter is not real life," Beto just announced his fundraising total for his first 24-hours and...

Seems like it was just yesterday that political twitter was saying that Beto wasn't announcing his numbers because they were bad and that his campaign was over already.

Yeah, I'd suspected that all the think-pieces about Beto waiting too long to announce were just the knives coming out from people with an agenda to push. It's still too early to tell for sure obviously, but these fundraising numbers are a good sign that perhaps he didn't wait too long.

Kirsten Gillibrand made her official announcement yesterday and there's been nary a peep about her waiting too long that I've seen.

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But Democrats say that after Republicans blocked Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland and other lower court judges during President Barack Obama’s final term only to quickly fill those vacancies, the party needs an equally bruising response.

Gillibrand said in an interview that she believes that Justice Neil Gorsuch essentially possesses an illegitimate seat after Garland was denied even a committee hearing. The New York Democrat added that the Senate should move swiftly to impose strict ethics rules on the Supreme Court.

“It’s not just about expansion, it’s about depoliticizing the Supreme Court,” said Warren (D-Mass.), who mentioned bringing appellate judges into Supreme Court cases as an option.

“It’s a conversation that’s worth having,” she added.

Their comments come after South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg and former Rep. Beto O’Rourke suggested they might expand the high court as part of their bids to win the Democratic nomination.

 

2020 Dems warm to expanding Supreme Court
A series of White House hopefuls are expressing new interest in remaking the courts — payback for Republican aggression during the Obama presidency.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/18/2020-democrats-supreme-court-1223625

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16 hours ago, Fragile Bird said:

Wow, what a brave man Trump is, taking shits at John McCain.

eta: lol, talk about Freudian errors made because letters are beside each other on the keyboard. The was supposed to be 'shots', but shits works too.

And Sen. Graham continues to fluff Trump. Some best friend he is.

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The idea that by announcing early, candidates would lock up big donors always seemed specious to me. What big donor would allow themselves to be locked up so early? Surely they could figure out more people would declare.

Staff, yes.

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1 hour ago, The Great Unwashed said:

Yeah, I'd suspected that all the think-pieces about Beto waiting too long to announce were just the knives coming out from people with an agenda to push. It's still too early to tell for sure obviously, but these fundraising numbers are a good sign that perhaps he didn't wait too long.

Well there's a fundamental distinction for thinking he missed an opportunity by waiting to announce and suggesting his campaign is "already over" - the latter is just silly.  There's also no reason to think criticism his waiting has anything to do with the inane criticism he's gotten from right, left, and center the past few days, although that was a pretty stupid joke about his wife that will probably cost him at home.

1 hour ago, The Great Unwashed said:

Kirsten Gillibrand made her official announcement yesterday and there's been nary a peep about her waiting too long that I've seen.

Gillibrand is a pretty horrible comparison for two reasons.  First, most people don't see a distinction between forming an exploratory committee and "officially" running - almost everyone already assumed she was running.  Second, Beto has always (or at least should) been looking to be significantly higher on the totem pole than Gillibrand, as evidenced by him consistently outpolling her even before he announced.

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I really want to have dinner with the Conways. That must be the most chaotic affair in D.C.

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