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29 minutes ago, Ormond said:

Uh, we are about 13 days from the census starting since one the instructions are normally to count everyone who was living at your residence on April 1. Maybe they could put off the census like they have done several primaries, but we are definitely still going to "be in this" when the census starts. 

 

12 hours ago, DMC said:

I mean it's not a big deal if it's delayed for awhile.

The primary purpose of the census is apportionment that starts being applied in the 2022 elections.  There is still plenty of time to figure that out if need be.

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15 minutes ago, DanteGabriel said:

My own company has been very generous in their support as we work from home and keeps some semblance of normalcy in the day. But working from home while being the sole adult responsible for a five year old and being unable to take him anywhere really is getting to me. This is going to be a long 3/6/18 months, even in the most optimistic scenarios.

Indeed.  My wife and I are both lucky enough to be able to work from home, and to have the money to stock up on food and stay indoors the past week.  But trying to effectively work from home while rotating childcare for our 2 year old is very challenging.  Both of us are working extra hours at night after he goes to bed to make up for productivity lost during the day.  Every day feels sort of the same, and there's nothing to look forward to on the weekends or in the coming months.  This is a grind already, and it's only been a week. 

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20 minutes ago, DanteGabriel said:

I think this is about mask scarcity and not wanting civilians to hoard masks, but we're already too late on that front. My friend is an ER doc in San Francisco and she cannot get any more N95 masks. Medical personnel in Rhode Island are being told to use the same mask for two or more days.

My wife has put in 60 hours at a hospital outside of Boston since Friday and has not had a proper mask for at least two weeks. I open the door for her every night or morning she comes back from a 12-hour shift, and we make sure my son doesn't touch her until she's been able to shed her clothes into a designated laundry basked and taken a shower, to avoid any infection coming that way. But she doesn't have masks and she's asthmatic, so she's a high risk case if she gets infected.

Even a makeshift mouth and nose covering made from cloth or paper towels would help reduce droplet spread.  We need to be doing everything possible to reduce the chance of transmission, especially in areas that still aren't in lockdown.

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Last night we were registered for a (Zoom) Working Families party webchat.  Warren made an appearnce, but the feature was the head of the nurses union of Washington (state). She says “social distancing” is a terrible choice for what is, to be effective, “Physical Distancing.” Washington's nursing and hospital and medical system is falling apart. For decades now the US attitude to public health is crisis, not wellness. Essentially she said, this nation is sick, and this crisis is both symptom and consequence. This morning the head of public health of New York City said the same, and so did Governor Cuomo about the state's capacities and facilities.

In the meantime, the rethug senators smugly respond when asked why they and rich people and sports figures get tested and treated easily when the rest of us don't: "That's what happens, that's how it works, what do you expect?"

This is a happy place opportunity for them to genocide the elderly, the infirm, the poor, the homeless and the sick -- and the small business.

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Tulsi Gabbard has dropped out and endorsed Biden.

Zorral, we all hate Trump and crowd, but even I don't think this was deliberate, except in the sense Trump probably kept hearing "most people won't get it or won't even know they've had it". Gross negligence, but not murder.

eta: or do you have 'criminal negligence causing death'?

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52 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

or do you have 'criminal negligence causing death'

Also profiteering out of the death, etc.

They found their opportunity and they are ON IT and thrilled it's here.  How could you think otherwise considering ALL THE THINGS THEY HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED of utmost cruelty concluding in death?  Considering ALL THE THINGS THEY SAY and have said for decades?

It's government as (capitalist system) business and profit TRUMPS all, and is carefully managed to go only into the autocratic oligarchy's pockets.  Read a history of the Hansa League, pure undiluted capitalism at work.  For example: they would not risk any investment or capital for ransom even for the relief of one their own League's and family's cities, because that was unproductive use of money that would only encourage others to siege their ports.   The death of many for the profit a few was their religion their law and they didn't care even if any of their families died in the process.  These people are no different.  These people have always been with us and they have often ruled nations.

Anyone who thinks capitalists aren't running things here intentionally without compunction of realizing profit and power out of death -- two words: Purdu Pharma. Then there's the saboteur's family attempt to buy up the virus vaccine research to get the copyrights and production for itself and itself only -- while the damned Jared Kushner has proven over and over just in this situation plus so many others, that even when given all the breaks he effs it up.  The CDC -- totally sidelined in favor of his 'research.'

 

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1 hour ago, Maithanet said:

Indeed.  My wife and I are both lucky enough to be able to work from home, and to have the money to stock up on food and stay indoors the past week.  But trying to effectively work from home while rotating childcare for our 2 year old is very challenging.  Both of us are working extra hours at night after he goes to bed to make up for productivity lost during the day.  Every day feels sort of the same, and there's nothing to look forward to on the weekends or in the coming months.  This is a grind already, and it's only been a week. 

I have worked from home for the past 16 months or so and have really mixed feelings about it.  It is nice in most of the ways that people imagine, but the downside is that you are never not at work.  In the midst of big projects I would find myself stopping into the office room in the middle of the night if I got up to pee or something just to check on the progress of one thing or another.  My company was based on the west coast and I’m in the central time zone so their workday was still going when I was ready to quit for the day and everyone always ‘forgot’ about the time difference.  The beeping sound that Skype chat makes gave me mild ptsd after a while.

Though it’s a pretty crappy time for it to change, I’m starting a new job soon where I need to be physically present and other than the whole pandemic thing I’m looking forward to it.  The ideal for me is probably a mixture of days in the office and days working from home.  100% remote was a bit too much remote for me.

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2 hours ago, Fragile Bird said:

Tulsi Gabbard has dropped out and endorsed Biden.

Now for Bernie to do the same, so we can finally get to business.

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Gross negligence, but not murder.

eta: or do you have 'criminal negligence causing death'?

 

the US president is absolutely immune to civil liability for acts taken within the scope of office.  nixon v. fitzgerald, 457 U.S. 731 (1982). more than likely the US president enjoys a privilege against criminal prosecution while in office, but is not immune.  hard to see how there could be criminal responsibility for duly authorized constitutional acts undertaken pursuant to statute, however.

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10 minutes ago, sologdin said:

the US president is absolutely immune to civil liability for acts taken within the scope of office.  nixon v. fitzgerald, 457 U.S. 731 (1982). more than likely the US president enjoys a privilege against criminal prosecution while in office, but is not immune.  hard to see how there could be criminal responsibility for duly authorized constitutional acts undertaken pursuant to statute, however.

I always forget that.

But, he's declared this a war - how about war crimes?

Being facetious, of course.

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That the man who posed as a no-nonsense businessman, through his stupidity and pathological narcissism, has dealt such a swift and stunning blow to the American capitalist system itself is a fitting irony. But it is one that Wilson himself warned us about. “Business-like the administration of government may and should be—but it is not business,” the scholar-president wrote. “It is organic social life

https://katz.substack.com/p/none-of-his-business

And ya, they all need to be indicted and imprisoned for at the very least attempted homicide.  I'm one of those they've tried to kill, and may damned well do so.  Not to mention my friends and colleagues and maybe even my family, who as much as I rail against them for being partially responsible for this, I cannot be happy about, especially with a new niece born last month.

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how about we shoot for the stars and land firmly on the floor by voting them out and letting them retire into comfortable and relatively harmless private life?  justice might be had through merciless assessments later from the history writers.

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5 minutes ago, sologdin said:

how about we shoot for the stars and land firmly on the floor by voting them out and letting them retire into comfortable and relatively harmless private life?  justice might be had through merciless assessments later from the history writers.

But this statement doesn't provide that surge of internet righteousness that I'm seeking!!!

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3 hours ago, Fragile Bird said:

Tulsi Gabbard has dropped out and endorsed Biden.

I'm surprised she endorsed Biden.  Given she's not running again, figured her next career move was to become one of the "Democrats" on FNC, or perhaps a contributor at some other right-wing outlet.  Endorsing Biden does not help that.

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29 minutes ago, DMC said:

I'm surprised she endorsed Biden.  Given she's not running again, figured her next career move was to become one of the "Democrats" on FNC, or perhaps a contributor at some other right-wing outlet.  Endorsing Biden does not help that.

I’m just assuming that she’s going to try to hit up Biden for a new job first before being the pet “Democrat” on Fox.

If nothing else it pads her resume if she gets in.

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Okay, I know that we're in the middle of a global pandemic, and everyone is under stress and may not be thinking clearly, but I was watching MSNBC and Jared Polis, Democratic governor of Colorado was on, and he made an overtly political attack on Trump that I found both jarring and troubling in tone.

Apparently Trump, or someone, had mentioned the government taking an equity stake in any companies that receive possible future bailout money. Polis mentioned this, and attacked Trump from the right by saying something like "we don't want to impose measures like the socialist Trump is proposing, in order to protect capitalism in the US". That wasn't the exact quote, but it captures the exact spirit of the quote.

Like I said, I know it's a crisis and I'm doing my best to make allowances. But the Democratic party must not push leftist supporters to Trump by telling them that he's the one they should vote for if they want socialism. That is a disturbing message to send.

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Senate Republicans introduce trillion-dollar coronavirus package
The move helps pave the way for Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer to begin negotiations.

https://www.politico.com/

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House Democrats are drafting their own stimulus package with extensive financial protections — including direct monthly payments of as much as $2,000 for adults; grants and debt relief for small businesses; and measures to halt evictions and foreclosures.

Democrats would also enforce strict rules on businesses that receive federal cash, such as maintaining payroll, upholding collective bargaining rights and no stock buybacks.

Pelosi and committee leaders laid out the details of the plan — which is still taking shape — on a more than two hour conference call on Thursday.

Separately from the economic relief measures, House Democrats are also pushing for between $120 billion and $150 billion in cash for federal agencies. Much of that would trickle down to state and local authorities, which have been struggling to meet public health and economic demands amid the outbreak.

 

 

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Just saw an article that Sen. Richard Burr dumped between half a million to $1.5 million worth of shares on Feb. 13, just days after he did a Fox News op-ed that the US was in better shape to fight an epidemic than ever before. 
 

Apparently, as head of the Intel Committee, he received a briefing from the military that the coronavirus was much worse than was being reported. On Feb. 27 he had a luncheon meeting with constituents, telling them it was going to be bad, perhaps as bad as the 1918 Spanish flu.

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At the top of their list is progressives’ benchmark on the issue of direct cash payments to Americans to help them cope with the economic slowdown—one that has broad buy-in from Democrats and Republicans but disagreement on key details. 

The progressives are calling for guaranteeing monthly cash payments of up to $2,000 for each adult in the U.S., and up to $1,000 more for families with children, for the next six months—with needier families able to extend for another six months. That proposal is far more generous and expansive than the $1,200 individual tax rebate—and $2,400 family rebate—that Senate Republicans proposed on Thursday for households making less than $150,000.

 

Progressives Call on Pelosi to Negotiate Bigger Cash Payments for Americans

https://www.thedailybeast.com/progressives-call-on-nancy-pelosi-to-negotiate-bigger-cash-payments-for-americans?ref=home

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