Jaxom 1974 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Don't actually have any spoilers yet...but wanted a safe space for any who might... But my initial reaction was: Holy smokes! This movie was possibly better than the first! Just damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Just began it. Watching with the 4y/o niece. I’m loving her commentary so far during the race. ”How she do that? She not big!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady narcissa Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I'm very much looking forward to seeing this movie....but it won't be anytime soon. But I love spoilers. So if someone would please spoil the ending for me, it would be much appreciated. I really want to know the deal with... Spoiler Steve coming back and if its really him and what are people's comments online about it not being Steve's body????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 minute ago, lady narcissa said: I'm very much looking forward to seeing this movie....but it won't be anytime soon. But I love spoilers. So if someone would please spoil the ending for me, it would be much appreciated. I really want to know the deal with... Reveal hidden contents Steve coming back and if its really him and what are people's comments online about it not being Steve's body????? Only 22 minutes in. I’ll pm if no one else answers first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 minute ago, lady narcissa said: I'm very much looking forward to seeing this movie....but it won't be anytime soon. But I love spoilers. So if someone would please spoil the ending for me, it would be much appreciated. I really want to know the deal with... Hide contents Steve coming back and if its really him and what are people's comments online about it not being Steve's body????? Spoiler Suffice it to say, he's back because of a wish power, though it is in another man's body. I wasn't 100% clear why that was needed...but its a Money's Paw style deal and there is a catch and he doesn't make it until the end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady narcissa Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Thanks @Jaxom 1974 If you don't mind could you expand slightly? I don't need a detailed plot description but can you... Spoiler Just clarify if it isn't Steve's body, is it somehow supposed to still be Steve? Or is it someone pretending to be Steve? Or just an illusion? And is it cringey? Or bittersweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, lady narcissa said: Thanks @Jaxom 1974 If you don't mind could you expand slightly? I don't need a detailed plot description but can you... Reveal hidden contents Just clarify if it isn't Steve's body, is it somehow supposed to still be Steve? Or is it someone pretending to be Steve? Or just an illusion? And is it cringey? Or bittersweet? Basically Steve just steals some 80's guy's body. Everyone else perceives him as this other guy Diana claims to only see Steve so we the audience also see Chris Pine. I haven't been able to finish the movie yet on HBOgo, I'll try again tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I watched it on HBO Max and felt underwhelmed. The visuals looked sub-par to most big movies we got in recent years. The plot wasn't always coherent. I thought it started well, but I'm not sure that the lesson that Antiope tried to teach young Dianna was ever applied later. It's definitely not better than the first movie, though Maxwell Lord worked a bit better than Ares at the end. I still liked Gadot as WW. I suppose we can say this is the movie that we needed at this time, with its strong positive message at the end, also fitting with the Holidays. But this movie was supposed to come early summer, and it was practically done before the pandemic. But the biggest miss for me was the soundtrack. Hans Zimmer got lazy. The first movie had a high tempo kick-ass music. This one, less so. For a movie that touted the 80s setting, with the trailers relying heavily on synthwave music, there was way more orchestra than anything else. And that could have been ok if it at least felt original, but it didn't. In fact it wasn't all original. In the pivotal aerial scene near the end, they used parts of the iconic "Adagio in D Minor" from Sunshine by John Murphy. And the part with how Steve comes back is going to cause debate. I thought it was the wrong choice, and if nuclear missiles can appear out of thin air, ancient walls rise up without warning, then a dead guy doesn't need to hijack the body of a living one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 37 minutes ago, lady narcissa said: Thanks @Jaxom 1974 If you don't mind could you expand slightly? I don't need a detailed plot description but can you... Reveal hidden contents Just clarify if it isn't Steve's body, is it somehow supposed to still be Steve? Or is it someone pretending to be Steve? Or just an illusion? And is it cringey? Or bittersweet? RumHam basically covered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady narcissa Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Thanks. I've seen very mixed comments on this which has somewhat tempered my hopes for this. It's too bad because the initial trailer was fantastic and had me very excited...most especially with the use of New Order. I know trailer music is rarely if ever in the actual movie but it sounds like there is a disappointing lack of 80s music in this movie which seems like a huge missed opportunity. I'll still see it someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 To steal a line from someone else, 'surprisingly little Wonder Woman in this Wonder Woman film'. I'm not hiding spoilers in a thread marked spoilers... I liked it but didn't love it like the first one. For a movie set in the 80's, where was the music? We got a few seconds a FGTH song. That was it? I was fine with the general plot device. I was not fine with the Cheetah CGI or the 47 seconds you get of her before she's gone while other scenes get more time for no real reason. And Asteria's fancy golden suit that was the basis of the film's marketing was a letdown, again because of time and flimsiness. BUT I was teary during the mid credits scene. LOVED it and the nod to the past. It was way too long and gave short shrift to a few plot points that should have had more development and screen time. I thought Kristen Wiig and Pedro Pascal were pretty great. I like Gal Gadot as WW and I think Chris Pine is the best Chris so I was happy to have him back, no matter the reason. I think Patty Jenkins is the bees knees and it's really the writing that is the problem here. The story was just meh. Would it have felt as boring in a theater? Guess I'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 What a mess of a movie. Feels like they figured they could just ride Gadot’s star power and not worry about minor details like, I don’t know, halfway decent writing or making any kind of sense. The first Wonder Woman was only 2/3 of a good movie, and this one doesn’t even come close to that. Also, for all the hype about this being an 80s extravaganza, aside from one scene where Chris Pine tries on some clothes, this could have been set in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Thinking about it, this would have been a much better movie if they’d cut Pedro Pascal’s character and incredibly silly storyline entirely, and just focused the whole thing in Kristen Wiig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Myshkin said: What a mess of a movie. Feels like they figured they could just ride Gadot’s star power and not worry about minor details like, I don’t know, halfway decent writing or making any kind of sense. The first Wonder Woman was only 2/3 of a good movie, and this one doesn’t even come close to that. Also, for all the hype about this being an 80s extravaganza, aside from one scene where Chris Pine tries on some clothes, this could have been set in 2020. Why do you hate life so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 10 hours ago, kairparavel said: For a movie set in the 80's, where was the music? We got a few seconds a FGTH song. That was it? I think the 80's setting was more about not contradicting the first movie and Batman v. Superman. In the 80's she can take out a few security cameras with her tiara and that's that, she's a whisper. I thought it was weak that the dreamstone was held in a jewelry story in a mall just so they could have their 80's mall setpiece. There's definitely a previous draft of the script where Wiig's character finds the thing in an archeological dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Did Patty Jenkins forget her movie was a prequel? I just find it strange that Diana uses/unlocks powers in the second half of this movie, that she clearly doesn't have in BvS and The Justice League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 link to Stuckmann review of this movie. Spoiler, he didn’t like it at all and thought it was a bit of a mess. Seems quite consistent with what I’m reading here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Myshkin said: What a mess of a movie. Feels like they figured they could just ride Gadot’s star power and not worry about minor details like, I don’t know, halfway decent writing or making any kind of sense. The first Wonder Woman was only 2/3 of a good movie, and this one doesn’t even come close to that. Also, for all the hype about this being an 80s extravaganza, aside from one scene where Chris Pine tries on some clothes, this could have been set in 2020. It's funny how people went from hating the casting choice to Gadot becoming a huge star. I really don't know what to make of the movie, so I'll have to watch it again, but I'm willing to give it some breaks due to the conditions it was shot and produced in. The first movie is actually overrated IMO, but the two leads made up for some of its shortcomings. It wasn't as effective the second go around. They had some fun with the clothing and pop culture, but @kairparavel is right, they really missed out on the music. Overall it's still better than what a lot of DC puts out, put still, most will find it to be a letdown. Gadot was perfectly cast in her role in Death on the Nile though, and I'm excited to see it whenever it comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Was forced to watch 20 minutes of this before convincing gf to turn it off. Fucking awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Also what was the point of the opening scene of the movie? It was cool to look at, but didn't connect to anything in the story. Did they just sign all of those actors on for the sequel, only to suddenly realize after writing the script, that they had no place for them in the story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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