Lord Patrek Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, fionwe1987 said: You're unable to separate the fact that there is personal preference, like how diverse the show should be. You're allowed to have those, and express those, even though they smell like rotten fish. I vehemently disagree with the idea that RJ's vision had anything to do with lack of diversity, but hey, if that's what you perceive, so be it. The issue I have is with you thinking having the opposite perspective to yours is the cause of bad writing and dialogue, or whatever "secular" critiques there may be about the show, which are independent of your stance on issues like diversity. The Expanse is a diverse speculative fiction series. It does very well in aspects like pace, sensible changes to source material, even CGI than WoT is currently doing. It definitely helps that the authors of the books are part of the writing. But imagine for a moment that the same cast was hired, but RJ was alive and consulting on the scripts, and was helping them cut the story the right way for the screen. Are you telling me the show would definitely have been bad, because it hired a diverse cast and tried to foreground the most modern, distinct and interesting parts of RJ's world building? If you think that, you show that it isn't exactly RJ's vision that you don't think is being respected. One of my favorite TV shows ever is The Wire. I have absolutely nothing against minorities and that show showcase amazing talents across the board. There are plenty of people of colors in WoT, just not among the leads. This goes against RJ's vision, for they are not even close to any of the books' descriptions (other than for Rand and Mat). The same way I don't want actors/actresses to be whitewashed to generate more interest if series/movies, I also would like adaptation to be faithful to the source material. Which is why I love the fact that basically 99% of the most important characters in The Wire are black. But I would have been against making the Starks people of color in the HBO adaptation of GoT because they were always meant to be white. Diversity works in The Expanse because it's an important part of the books. No argument there. If RJ was still among us and was 100% behind the changes and happy with them, then no one could say that the TV series goes against his vision. But he's not and Judkins is calling the shots and making those decisions. Trying to be progressive and show diversity does hurt the show because it sometimes feel like they ascribe more importance to those elements than on writing, you know, a good, cohesive, and entertaining story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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