Spockydog Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said: Same as we’re subsidising German public transport, because the Tories flogged our utilities. You're forgetting the Swiss national railway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Sorry for interrupting, but is this really real lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Heartofice said: Can you be more specific here in terms of how he has benefited and how he might have changed UKs policy on sanctions? Are you really asking me to explain how an oil trader benefits from actions that massively affect the oil market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, JEORDHl said: Sorry for interrupting, but is this really real lol Yeah, it's real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, polishgenius said: Are you really asking me to explain how an oil trader benefits from actions that massively affect the oil market? I’m mostly interested in whether you think major international policy like a oil sanction against Russia can be influenced by a measly £100k ( especially when you give it to the wrong person). Like do you genuinely believe if he hadn’t donated that we would have a different policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, JEORDHl said: Sorry for interrupting, but is this really real lol The MP in question was praised last year for losing a startling amount of weight (about 80lbs) which he put down to becoming really dedicated to his home gym during lockdown. He's facing allegations of sexual harassment, took a £100,000 loan from a Russian businessman, and has just been admitted to a psychiatric hospital with 'stress'. So that's sudden and extreme weight loss, uninhibited sexual behaviour and a hospital admission after coming into a lot of money. Hmmm. He claims to have 'enormous amounts of defence', which is definitely a very normal way to say that you are innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 In his defense, the gak is very moreish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Heartofice said: I’m mostly interested in whether you think major international policy like a oil sanction against Russia can be influenced by a measly £100k ( especially when you give it to the wrong person). Like do you genuinely believe if he hadn’t donated that we would have a different policy. If you look at the history of buying politicians in just about any country 100,000 in Pounds, Euros, or Dollars is a huge amount. Look up Abscam to find out how little it took to bribe politicians. Sometimes all it took was a cheap suit of clothes. 100k in any kind of currency would certainly get any politicians undivided attention. Throw in a hooker and some blow, and it is how much can I do and when can I do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, mormont said: The MP in question was praised last year for losing a startling amount of weight (about 80lbs) which he put down to becoming really dedicated to his home gym during lockdown. He's facing allegations of sexual harassment, took a £100,000 loan from a Russian businessman, and has just been admitted to a psychiatric hospital with 'stress'. So that's sudden and extreme weight loss, uninhibited sexual behaviour and a hospital admission after coming into a lot of money. Hmmm. He claims to have 'enormous amounts of defence', which is definitely a very normal way to say that you are innocent. Putting himself through it, eh. Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 They have an ethics team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 22 hours ago, polishgenius said: Are you really asking me to explain how an oil trader benefits from actions that massively affect the oil market? Here's a handy diagram for anyone struggling to comprehend why an oil trader might want to give Priti Patel £100,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 So.. Priti Patel has single handedly put stop to a windfall tax because she received a donation of £100k, to which she openly admits. That is why nobody should ever take Momentum seriously, thank god Starmer has done something about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 4:28 PM, Derfel Cadarn said: Same as we’re subsidising German public transport, because the Tories flogged our utilities. My 100 Euro monthly Berlin all-zones railcard thanks you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, polishgenius said: My 100 Euro monthly Berlin all-zones railcard thanks you. You’re welcome. Prick Though in any case, I’ve been working from home since March 2020, and my boss has told her bosses she sees no reason for us to go back to the office save for a couple days a month. Four years ago, before the birth if my daughter, in my previous office, I used to walk 4.5 miles home every day, because the bus was expensive and saved me a whole ten minutes due to its route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Heartofice said: So.. Priti Patel has single handedly put stop to a windfall tax because she received a donation of £100k, to which she openly admits. Oh come on, that is unworthy of you. A businessman gives a politician a substantial amount of money. The politician makes or influences a decision that substantially benefits the businessman. You don't need to explicitly prove that the politician made the decision only because of the money, and would not have made it otherwise, in order to call it corruption. This is exactly why donations to politicians need to be limited and closely monitored to have a properly functioning democracy. A fact that the current government is clearly unwilling to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 34 minutes ago, A wilding said: This is exactly why donations to politicians need to be limited and closely monitored to have a properly functioning democracy. A fact that the current government is clearly unwilling to accept. Oh, be fair - this government is perfectly willing to accept that fact, they just have no interest in this country being a properly functioning democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, A wilding said: Oh come on, that is unworthy of you. A businessman gives a politician a substantial amount of money. The politician makes or influences a decision that substantially benefits the businessman. You don't need to explicitly prove that the politician made the decision only because of the money, and would not have made it otherwise, in order to call it corruption. This is exactly why donations to politicians need to be limited and closely monitored to have a properly functioning democracy. A fact that the current government is clearly unwilling to accept. I just think you are grossly over stating the influence someone like Patel has in the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 She is one of the most powerful women in the country. You don't think being HS gives you enormous influence outside of the Home Office? Come now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I mean, there is this thing called cabinet government. Decisions aren't taken solely in the relevant department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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