EggBlue Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 it's needless to say there are numerous theories out there . a lot of them closer to fan fiction than theories . but other than tin foil theories , there are some that are just either so far fetched or disgusting that you wonder how the theorist came up with them! here's a *safe* space where we can respectfully judge weird theories! I go first : I've recently encountered a theory claiming that Shae is Sarella Sand and she was sent out by her father to go to Tywin Lannister and poison him . further more, this theory claims that Sarella/Shae was bent , bowed and broken by her father , prince Oberyn Martell and was in fact groomed and raped by him to become a whore and take up the responsibility of killing Tywin . the proof for this theory , you may ask ? well , according to this theorist , the similarity between Sarella portrait and Shae portrait in asoiaf app (or whatever GRRM sub-canon that contains portraits! ) , is uncanny , considering one of them is wearing a veil on her face ! .... honestly, this theory just made me wanna puke. kissdbyfire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) Rhaego the time-travelling fetus = Tyrion. Renly = Robert's Bastard Renly = Azor Ahai X = Y or a relative of Z just because they have the same/similar hair/eye colour... Edited December 31, 2022 by Craving Peaches Lady Isis, EggBlue and LadyStark04 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Euron is using his wizzards to warg inside the dusky slave woman (who victorian is pumping ) to spy on him! Euugh Lady Isis, Mark of the West and EggBlue 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 @EggBlue, I hadn’t read that theory before. You’re right, it’s weird and disturbing! There are sooooo many weird ones out there… I’ll start w/ a simple and obvious one that many may not find weird at all, and many others probably subscribe to. And I find it weird in the sense that for it to be true, Martin would have to be both a terrible writer and very lazy with his writing/plotting, and we know he is neither. ”Bloodraven did [insert basically anything]. LongRider, Lady Isis and EggBlue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) Euron is Daario is one of my favorites, though Varys being a mermaid is pretty up there as well. Edited December 31, 2022 by sifth EggBlue, kissdbyfire, LongRider and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Just now, sifth said: Euron is Daariois one of my favorites, though Varys being a mermaid is pretty up there as well. Good one. All the ones where X is not really X but Y or Z or whatever. Everyone has a secret identity, everyone is a secret Targaryen, yadda yadda yadda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Bolt Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Bc Varys knows who is naughty or nice and seems to have small army of homicidal little people he is actually Santa. EggBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: Good one. All the ones where X is not really X but Y or Z or whatever. Everyone has a secret identity, everyone is a secret Targaryen, yadda yadda yadda. I think Aristan being Barristan started this whole mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggBlue Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 47 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Renly = Azor Ahai how? why?!! 27 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: @EggBlue, I hadn’t read that theory before. You’re right, it’s weird and disturbing! it was . it really was . I think it was a you tube video of the Order of Green Hand. 12 minutes ago, sifth said: I think Aristan being Barristan started this whole mess. probably . but that one was kinda obvious from the start . wasn't it ? the problem with most of identity theories is that they are largely baseless . especially Targaryen ones! Nathan Stark and sifth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 43 minutes ago, astarkchoice said: Euron is using his wizzards to warg inside the dusky slave woman (who victorian is pumping ) to spy on him! Euugh See I actually buy that Phylum of Alexandria and LongRider 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, EggBlue said: it was . it really was . I think it was a you tube video of the Order of Green Hand. Now it makes perfect sense! They’re the absolute worst. Lady Isis, EggBlue and LadyStark04 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 27 minutes ago, EggBlue said: how? why?!! No idea. As much as I like Renly, I don't follow the theory. You really have to stretch what symbolism there is for it to work. Also Renly already 'came back'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Brienne is dead and brought back to be the 'New Hound' and while wearing the Hound's helmet she wreaks havoc, death and mayhem in Westeros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, LongRider said: Brienne is dead and brought back to be the 'New Hound' and while wearing the Hound's helmet she wreaks havoc, death and mayhem in Westeros. That’s pretty weird and bad. I remember another that is sort of similar and not much of a theory because it’s just the notion that Brienne died when LSH had her, that she didn’t scream ‘sword’ as per Martin himself. And now she’s a wight. That’s as far as I remember. Makes zero sense and is 100% weird. LongRider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, kissdbyfire said: Makes zero sense and is 100% weird. There are so many like that and the author's be like "This theory is mine and it is right because it's mine! My theory is a great theory, and it WILL happen, because IT IS MINE!" Makes for great discussions...not! kissdbyfire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Young Maester Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Damn, what the lack of book material does to a mfer Craving Peaches and LongRider 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 "Insert character" will become the Nights King. Usually Jon and Stannis are the most common ones, though I've heard nearly every male character will become the Nights King at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, sifth said: "Insert character" will become the Nights King. Usually Jon and Stannis are the most common ones, though I've heard nearly every male character will become the Nights King at this point. In my opinion, the only ones that make any sense are Jon, Stannis, or Euron. Anyone else is just crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkTullies Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) Quentyn is still alive. No single Targaryen ever did any bad thing ever: any apparent bad deeds were caused by the maesters, or the Faith, or Bran warging into them from the future. Any theories about pre-historic bloodlines or ancient ancestry being the entire basis of a character's moral worth. George Martin isn't writing story about "superior races", and just because a certain family thinks that they are closer to gods than men doesn't mean they are. Starks have been performing human sacrifices to the weirwoods throughout all of history up through Rickard and Brandon, and somehow the kings and the commoners and historians don't know about it... not even the Starks themselves. And then all the things that are really "predictions" rather than theories which are based entirely on their hatred of the character with no textual support whatsoever, but I'm not going to get into those. Edited December 31, 2022 by StarkTullies EggBlue, Raven Princling, Julia H. and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, StarkTullies said: Quentyn is still alive. No single Targaryen ever did any bad thing ever: any apparent bad deeds were caused by the maesters, or the Faith, or Bran warging into them from the future. Any theories about pre-historic bloodlines or ancient ancestry being the entire basis of a character's moral worth. George Martin isn't writing story about "superior races", and just because a certain family thinks that they are closer to gods than men doesn't mean they are. Starks have been sacrificing to the weirwoods throughout all of history up through Rickard and Brandon, and somehow the kings and the commoners and historians don't know about it... not even the Starks themselves. And then all the things that are really "predictions" rather than theories which are based entirely on their hatred of the character with no textual support whatsoever, but I'm not going to get into those. I think the Starks, at least Ned, have been unintentionally making blood offerings to the Weirwoods by cleaning Ice of blood from executions in the gods wood EggBlue and Groo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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