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Some weird and wonderful results happening at the minute.  The end of the season is so intense. 

Neverkusen being unbeatable and Bayern being shit despite making arguably the signing of the summer. Barca absolutely shitting the bed in europe, Arsenal being relentless except at home to Villa, and Utd fans like lemmings in reverse trying to get back in the stadium when the goal was ruled out. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

You still have to play Spurs. No, I am serious! I've always felt that would be a game you could lose. Again, I am serious!

We'll probably flush them down their own toilet bowl and then go and lose to Bournemouth.

All jokes aside, getting these six points on the board was critical for us. Especially after that little wobble. City and Liverpool under massive pressure now.

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8 hours ago, Spockydog said:

We'll probably flush them down their own toilet bowl and then go and lose to Bournemouth.

All jokes aside, getting these six points on the board was critical for us. Especially after that little wobble. City and Liverpool under massive pressure now.

Liverpool are not winning the PL, both the players and fans know this . The Crystal Palace loss at home confirmed this.

But yes City are definitely under pressure.

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Looks like it's going to be Arne Slot for the next Liverpool manager. I don't really have any particular opinion on whether he or Amorim is the better candidate having watched exactly zero minutes of either the Dutch or Portuguese leagues this season. We'll have to see how it goes I suppose.

I only watched bits of the Arsenal Chelsea game last night but watching the highlights this morning Jackson had an, er, interesting game. He genuinely had Saliba and Gabriel on toast by the look of it. He's left Saliba for dead in the first half, then Gabriel's very lucky not to score an own goal. In the second half he really embarrasses Gabriel before his big chance. On the other side of the ledger he basically bottles going for the header in the first half for what should have been a massive chance and his chance in the second half, come on, you have to shoot across the keeper there. Oh yeah, and he should have had a red card.

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Jackson, like Darwin (well, more than Darwin, really) will become an elite striker if and when he starts hitting the net. 

Given how he plays, it might be an idea for Chelsea to do a Joelinton with him and turn him into a winger. I mean, nobody would miss Mudryk on the left..

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24 minutes ago, Rorshach said:

Jackson, like Darwin (well, more than Darwin, really) will become an elite striker if and when he starts hitting the net.

I don't know, maybe.

The problem with Nunez is literally just the ball going in the net. His all round play is excellent and finishing, while he does occasionally make some bad choices, he's mostly making the right kind of attempts. If you look at the underlying stats he's at the very unlucky end of the scale to have the number of goals he does. For example I've got no doubt Nunez is throwing himself at that headed chance Jackson had, with his luck this season the keeper probably pulls off a worldie save though.

Jackson is significantly more raw than Nunez I'd say. He's got the raw materials to be a top striker but when you watch him he's frequently making the wrong run or his head goes down in games and he's not really offering for his midfielders. It can't be easy to be a player who needs to develop at Chelsea to be fair.

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2 minutes ago, ljkeane said:

I don't know, maybe.

The problem with Nunez is literally just the ball going in the net. His all round play is excellent and finishing, while he does occasionally make some bad choices, he's mostly making the right kind of attempts. If you look at the underlying stats he's at the very unlucky end of the scale to have the number of goals he does. For example I've got no doubt Nunez is throwing himself at that headed chance Jackson had, with his luck this season the keeper probably pulls off a worldie save though.

Jackson is significantly more raw than Nunez I'd say. He's got the raw materials to be a top striker but when you watch him he's frequently making the wrong run or his head goes down in games and he's not really offering for his midfielders. It can't be easy to be a player who needs to develop at Chelsea to be fair.

Yeah, there is an element here of who's teaching. Darwin has the bonus of being in a clearly defined system with a very good manager, whereas Jackson ... is at Chelsea. 

It would be interesting to have Jackson in another team where he had a clearer system and better management, to see if that would help him with the issues you mention. 

Have to admit I've watched less of Chelsea than of Liverpool, so I might be very wrong. And yes, if there's something you can't fault Darwin for, it's his effort and energy. He'll chase absolutely everything, at top speed.

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1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said:

2 premier league players (both 19) arrested over a rape. They've apparently been suspended so it won't be too difficult to work out who they are. 

Wolves have had to put out a statement saying it's not any of their players involved because the internet detectives decided it must be Wolves players which has resulted in some of their players being harassed.

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1 hour ago, ljkeane said:

In the second half he really embarrasses Gabriel before his big chance. 

This was a sick bit of skill up until he decided to shoot near post (and miss goal) from a terrible angle vs shooting far post. If he shot it across, he scores. I do wonder if he is capable of getting better at finishing. It's one of those things that requires speed of thought, technique, instinct, slow heart rate... I don't know. We've seen a number of players who are really good never become prolific because they just can't keep their calm in front of the goal and I doubt it's for lack of training.

On the Arsenal front, Partey really does make this team a lot quicker and more fluid. His desire to take one or two touches and immediately push the ball forward is a welcome change and allows Odegaard to receive the ball in more space and more dangerous positions. I can't believe yesterday was the first time we started a Rice, Partey, Odegaard midfield since Community Shield. I really hope they sign a similar profile to Partey this summer so they can finally let him go. The team just looks significantly more balanced with him in the side. Jorginho was able to replicate that a few games but he hasn't been as consistent with speed of release as Partey is. I suspect if we played Partey to start in the 2nd game against Bayern, we would have had a better shot.

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1 hour ago, ljkeane said:

Looks like it's going to be Arne Slot for the next Liverpool manager. I don't really have any particular opinion on whether he or Amorim is the better candidate having watched exactly zero minutes of either the Dutch or Portuguese leagues this season. We'll have to see how it goes I suppose.

I have watched a bit of both. Stylistically, Slot seems to be more suited to the makeup of Liverpool's squad than Amorim which, in theory, would ensure a smoother transition.

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2 hours ago, Mexal said:

 I really hope they sign a similar profile to Partey this summer so they can finally let him go. The team just looks significantly more balanced with him in the side. Jorginho was able to replicate that a few games but he hasn't been as consistent with speed of release as Partey is.


It's gonna be a little tricky- a few years ago players of his profile, who'd slot in comfortably next to Rice, were fairly common, but nowadays players with that kind of passing tend to operate a bit further forward, which gives up defensive solidity (or, in your specific case, would put more of that 'staying-put' work on Rice). 

It's why Newcastle's deep-lying midfielders are a converted CAM and a converfted striker, and why we're struggling so much to refit our midfield.

 

I'm sure you can find someone- and it's probably a little easier in your case coz even if the plan is to punt Partey straight out the rest of your midfield is solid enough you can probably give yourselves time to bring a player up to speed. But no-one directly springs to mind. Well, apart from Guimaraes but I don't think you're getting him.

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1 hour ago, polishgenius said:

Well, apart from Guimaraes but I don't think you're getting him.

Why not? 

I think we've shown that if we go after a player, we've got a pretty good chance of getting them. And apparently we've already begun talks with his team.

He might want to go to City, but unless he wants to be KalvinPhillips2.0, I wouldn't recommend it. 

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