Florina Laufeyson Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 This....is pretty huge. Like, we always wondered what happened to Craster's babies. We theorized about it, created a knot of the fandom (Heretics) about it, we mulled it over, and tried to figure out what the hell was going on there. Well. We just had that answered for us. And the answer is still not a straight one. Theres still enough mystery surrounding the Others/White Walkers that we are left guessing. But still...Craster's babies. My dad made a pretty cool observation:These Other-People are pretty much all brothers. Think about it. Could they even have their own Night's Watch? Are these the lords of the Others? Was that the Heart of Winter we just saw? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Yep... Unlist for me.I always thought others took Craster babies just as a game. Laughing of humans in an evil way, but without any other porpouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northbound2.0 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Snip Discuss.I can get behind the "brother" idea. They looked to wearing the exact same armor. Nothing, truly spoiled if we think about it. We have all, long suspected....hell, knew there was crazy shit going down up there. I'm glad it was added to the show at this point. The writing has, long been on the wall; that show is going to pass the books. We just got a big taste of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grrm Reaper Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 can we get a screen cap of crazy other boss guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoneofYourBiz Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I stated in another thread that I am utterly disappointed by their appearance. They are supposed to be beautiful in their own way. Can you imagine the Night's King falling in love with a female version of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseHarrison Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It's a pretty big spoiler, Others are created by using their magic on living humans whereas they create Wights by using their magic on corpses. That was also the Land of Always Winter That was also probably the Night's King at the end. He was identified as such in a Rolling Stone article on the article, unless the author of said article did not actually have insider information from D&D and is guessing/full of shit. In any regard he is definitely going to become a big character in the books, probably ADOS. Shame to see it spoiled now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Saw this passage posted on reddit I had forgotten Gilly was crying. “Me and the babe. Please. I’ll be your wife, like I was Craster’s. Please, ser crow. He’s a boy, just like Nella said he’d be. If you don’t take him, they will.”“They?” said Sam, and the raven cocked its black head and echoed, “They. They. They.”“The boy’s brothers,” said the old woman on the left. “Craster’s sons. The white cold’s rising out there, crow. I can feel it in my bones. These poor old bones don’t lie. They’ll be here soon, the sons.” So pretty much just confirmation of something heavily implied in the books. I'm okay with it. Darth Maul White Walkers appearance i'm meh on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Danford Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 But if it's a spoiler from an unreleased book... That is pretty awful. I've spent years trying to guide non-book reading friends away from spoilers that will cheapen the reveal of the tv show. If the writers cheapen any reveal of the books by putting it in the show ahead of schedule, that is a slap in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_ Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I'm blown away, I seriously don't know how to process what I just watched. We just got a huge insight into the Others and what they are all about, yet we still know little to nothing about them. We do know that the white walkers are descendants of the frost giants from Jotunheim (Marvel Universe) ;) I wonder what GRRM has to say about that scene especially considering we haven't seen anything like that in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 Saw this passage posted on reddit I had forgotten So pretty much just confirmation of something heavily implied in the books. I'm okay with it. Darth Maul White Walkers appearance i'm meh on.... Duuuuuude! I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THAT! You rock for posting that passage! :cheers: As for their appearance, ehh. They look a lot like the jotnar from the Thor movies and im like "ok. Whatevs." Still prettier than guys like Puddles/Shards. We do know that the white walkers are descendants of the frost giants from Jotunheim (Marvel Universe Hue!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombies That Were Promised Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 But if it's a spoiler from an unreleased book... That is pretty awful. I've spent years trying to guide non-book reading friends away from spoilers that will cheapen the reveal of the tv show. If the writers cheapen any reveal of the books by putting it in the show ahead of schedule, that is a slap in the face. That's all well and dandy, but the TV show is an adaptation of the series, not individual books. That writer supplying them with such future revelations is GRRM himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib_Juju Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I don't remember many of the specifics from the book on the topic, but... was the number 13 significant in any of the Others stuff? There were 13 "people" in total, counting Darth Other (and not counting the guy who brought the kid). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Bean Corbray Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 We learned that The Others really ARE supernatural otherworldly superhuman beings because they know how to make a baby actually stop crying. Godlike Power. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakenfist Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Apparently the HBO Guide calls the Other with the crown horns the "Nights King." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseHarrison Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 There are huge implications from this revelation: Other (pun intended) things to consider: -HBO confirmed the Other at the end was the Night's King -The Night's King was in a line of 13 of these "ruling" Others. -The Night's King was the 13th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch This raises the question, do past Lord Commanders of the Watch become these ruling class of Others (or at least until the Night's King did)? This episode seems to imply so. This in turn raises the question, is the entire Watch a sham? Is the Watch itself a pawn of the Others? Was the wall really erected to protect Westeros from the Others or is it their own creation? If so, was Bran the Builder an Other, and if so is the entire Stark line descended from the White Walkers? If that's so, then maybe Jon as the Great Other reborn and Dany as Azor Ahai reborn is confirmed from just this one scene. Will Melisandre try to bring back Jon in TWOW, only to have him be reborn a White Walker? There are huge, plot-shattering implications from this simple short show spoiler. This was stuff that book readers were not meant to see. It's spoiler territory. But HBO gonna HBO, and the show was bound to pass the books eventually given the speed of GRRM's writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tf13 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Is it just me or did the Other who changed the baby look to be half human-half Other? Night's King's offspring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Stannis=Night's King debunked then. This was a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 There are huge implications from this revelation: Other (pun intended) things to consider: -HBO confirmed the Other at the end was the Night's King -The Night's King was in a line of 13 of these "ruling" Others. -The Night's King was the 13th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch This raises the question, do past Lord Commanders of the Watch become these ruling class of Others (or at least until the Night's King did)? This episode seems to imply so. This in turn raises the question, is the entire Watch a sham? Is the Watch itself a pawn of the Others? Was the wall really erected to protect Westeros from the Others or is it their own creation? If so, was Bran the Builder an Other, and if so is the entire Stark line descended from the White Walkers? If that's so, then maybe Jon as the Great Other reborn and Dany as Azor Ahai reborn is confirmed from just this one scene. Will Melisandre try to bring back Jon in TWOW, only to have him be reborn a White Walker? There are huge, plot-shattering implications from this simple short show spoiler. This was stuff that book readers were not meant to see. It's spoiler territory. But HBO gonna HBO, and the show was bound to pass the books eventually given the speed of GRRM's writing.well...time to throw away all the Stannis going to become the Night King theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Shiznit Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 This was a huge moment for the series and the books, GoT officaly passed the books for the first time in one aspect of the story, first of many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I can't remember this from books but for how long has Craster been sacrificing his sons to the Others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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