Fragile Bird Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Mexal said: This is nuts. Melanie Trump is suing because she was unable to capalize on her brand as FLOTUS, launch new product lines and make $150 million due to disparaging remakes from the Daily Mail. The lawyer for Melania is the same lawyer Hulk Hogan used to take down Gawker, but another similar lawsuit was tossed out when the court noted the article discussed false rumours that Melania had been a paid escort. It seems bizarre to sue a paper for discussing the harm false rumours cause, although of course it's easier than trying to track down the source of the rumours, which just might be that mysterious 400 pound fat guy sitting on a bed in New Jersey. Why would you do this and open Melania to attacks over the idea of commercializing her position as FLOTUS? Somebody seems to have extraordinary bad judgement. BTW, does anyone else wonder if Trump is slyly referring to Chris Christie every time Trump uses that description? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 51 minutes ago, denstorebog said: Wait, what. Isn't Daily Mail pretty pro-trump in general? At least the readers are ferociously right-wing in the comments section without exception. Is Trumpworld suing a sympathetic British newspaper? Is there any way we can arrange things so that they both lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Quote Why would you do this and open Melania to attacks over the idea of commercializing her position as FLOTUS? Somebody seems to have extraordinary bad judgement. I think the Trump family just doesn't care and thinks they can get away with it. They very well may be right. It's possible that stuff like this is part of Trump's unpopularity, but his enablers haven't deserted him yet. If it isn't bolted down, take it seems to be the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Isn't the Daily Mail one of Murdoch's "news outlets"? That would be so rich. That'd be so great. With regards to those two, that'd be the second best thing to watch, next to watching them kick each other in the nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Notone said: Isn't the Daily Mail one of Murdoch's "news outlets"? That would be so rich. That'd be so great. With regards to those two, that'd be the second best thing to watch, next to watching them kick each other in the nuts. No; the Daily Hate is to the right of Murdoch's British arm The BBC's response (condensed by me) to the cover-ups: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38890090 Quote Did we cover it? Yes. We had extensive coverage of the Ottawa attack, but here's our timeline of events, and our live coverage of the shootings. "You have seen what happened in Paris and Nice. All over Europe it's happening," he said. "It's gotten to a point where it's not even being reported. And in many cases the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it. We have reproduced the list that was subsequently produced below, and explained what happened in each case and whether we reported on it. The White House List Ottawa, October 2014 What happened: A soldier is killed at a war memorial by gunman Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, who had converted to Islam but not displayed militant behaviour. The shooting continued inside parliament. Did we cover it? Yes. We had extensive coverage of the Ottawa attack, but here's our timeline of events, and our live coverage of the shootings. New York City, October 2014 What happened: Policemen were attacked by a man wielding an axe Did we cover it? Yes. Riyadh, November 2014 What happened: Four people, including two policemen, were killed in a shootout near the Saudi capital Did we cover it? Yes. Abu Dhabi, December 2014 What happened: An American teacher was killed by an Emirati woman in the toilet of a shopping centre Did we cover it? Yes. Here's our first report into the attack, and here's our report when the perpetrator was executed. Sydney, December 2014 What happened: Three people, including the Iranian hostage taker, were killed in the 16-hour siege of a cafe in central Sydney Did we cover it? Yes, extensively - here is our timeline of events, and our live coverage. Joue les Tours, France, December 2014 What happened: A man brandishing a knife shouting "God is great" in Arabic is shot dead by police, Did we cover it? Yes. Paris, January 2015 What happened: Attacks, including a gun assault on the headquarters of Charlie Hebdo magazine and a siege in a kosher supermarket, leave 17 people dead. Did we cover it? Yes. As the biggest terror attack in a Western country in several years, the attacks gained a huge amount of coverage. Here is our detailed report of the events in Paris that month. You can find more material, including obituaries for the victims, here. Tripoli, Libya, January 2015 What happened: Nine people, including at least five foreigners, died in an attack on a hotel. Did we cover it? Yes. Riyadh, January 2015 What happened: It's not clear. There are no reports of an attack in the Saudi capital that month. But two US citizens were caught up in a gun attack in the north of the country. Nice, February 2015 What happened: Three soldiers were attacked with a knife outside a Jewish centre in the southern French city. Did we cover it? Yes. Copenhagen, February 2015 What happened: Two people were killed and five injured in two attacks in the Danish capital; the attacker was later killed. Did we cover it? Yes. Our news channels provided rolling coverage of the search for the attacker - here is one of our online reports of the events. Tunis, March 2015 What happened: An attack on the Bardo Museum in the Tunisian capital killed 22 people. Did we cover it? Yes. You can see some of our coverage here and the stories from some of the survivors here. Karachi, April 2015 What happened: Seven Pakistani policemen, three of whom were guarding polio workers, were killed. Did we cover it? Yes - you can also read about the deadly struggle of Pakistan's polio workers here. Paris, April 2015 What happened: There were no terror attacks in the French capital this month. The White House may be referring to the arrest of a man, who had apparently shot himself by accident, on suspicion of plotting to blow up churches. Zvornic, Bosnia, April 2015 What happened: A gunman shouting "God is great" in Arabic attacked a police station, killing one officer and injuring two more. Did we cover it? Yes. Garland, Texas, May 2015 What happened: Two gunmen were shot dead after opening fire outside a conference on cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad in a suburb of Dallas. Did we cover it? Yes. Boston, June 2015 What happened: The White House document may be referring to the deadly shooting by police of 26-year-old Usaama Rahim, who had been under 24 hour surveillance, and approached officers with a knife. Did we cover it? Yes. El Gora, Egypt, June 2015 What happened: It's not clear, but this probably refers to ongoing violence between IS and Egyptian authorities on the Sinai peninsula. Did we cover it? Yes. Sousse, Tunisia, June 2015 What happened: A gunman attacked a seafront hotel, killing 38 people, including 30 British tourists. Did we cover it? Yes. You can read our special report on the Sousse tragedy here, learn more about what happened that day here, and learn more about the victims here. Lyon, June 2015 What happened: A man was beheaded at a factory by one of his employees. Did we cover it? Yes. Cairo, July 2015 What happened: A blast that badly damaged the Italian consulate in Cairo was later claimed by the Islamic State group Did we cover it? Yes. Paris, August 2015 What happened: This entry probably refers to the attack by a radical Islamist on a train travelling from Amsterdam to Paris, which was foiled by six passengers. Did we cover it? Yes. And here's our story on how the hero passengers were awarded afterwards. El Gora, Egypt, September 2015 What happened: It is not clear. But four American and two Fijian peacekeepers from the Multinational Force and Observers (MFO) were wounded by two roadside bomb blasts in the Sinai peninsula. Did we cover it? No, but you can read the Washington Post's story here. Two weeks earlier, we had published this piece on the insurgency in Sinai. Dhaka, September 2015 What happened: An Italian aid worker was shot dead in the diplomatic district of Bangladesh's capital Did we cover it? Yes. Copenhagen, September 2015 What happened: This probably refers to a Bosnian-born Danish national who shot three people, and whom police said had sympathies with IS. Did we cover it? We didn't, but you can read more from The Local Denmark here. El Gora, Egypt, October 2015 What happened: It is unclear what incident this entry on the list refers to. That month, two police officers were killed by an explosion at a police station in el-Arish, in the northern Sinai peninsula. An ultraconservative Islamist parliamentary candidate was also shot dead in the town. Parramatta, Australia, October 2015 What happened: An Australian born in Iran and of Iraqi-Kurdish heritage killed police worker Curtis Cheng. Did we cover it? Yes. This is one of the reports we ran over several days. Rangpur, Bangladesh, October 2015 What happened: A Japanese man was shot dead in northern Bangladesh. Did we cover it? Yes. Hasana, Egypt, October 2015 What happened: This refers to an area of the Sinai peninsula near where a Russian airliner was brought down by a bomb, killing all 224 people on board. The incident was covered in forensic detail by international media. Did we cover it? Yes. Here's what we wrote on all we know about the crash - you can see our live coverage from the day here. Merced, California, November 2015 What happened: Four people were stabbed by a student, who police later said had been inspired by IS Did we cover it? Yes. We reported on the incident only when the IS links were detailed four months later. Paris, November 2015 What happened: The explosions at the Stade de France and gun attacks on restaurants, bars and the Bataclan nightclub killed 130 people. The attacks, committed by IS militants, were one of the most widely-reported stories in recent years. Did we cover it? Yes. You can read our detailed run-down on the events of the night here, and learn more on the victims here. Our special report on the Paris attacks, bringing together our most important material, is here. Dinajpur, Bangladesh, November 2015 What happened: An Italian priest, Piero Parolari, is attacked by unknown assailants on a motorbike, but survives. Did we cover it? Yes. Rajlovac, Bosnia, November 2015 What happened: A suspected Islamist shot dead two policemen before blowing himself up. Did we cover it? Yes. San Bernardino, California, December 2015 What happened: A married couple, Tashfeen Malik and Syed Rizwan Farook, attacked a community centre, killing 14 people and injuring 21 more. It was one of the deadliest mass shootings in years. Did we cover it? Yes. Here is our full breakdown of the events in San Bernardino, what we know about the victims and the attackers. And you can find all our coverage on US gun violence here. London, December 2015 What happened: A man with a knife attacked passengers at Leytonstone underground station, shouting "this is for Syria". Muhiddin Mire was later jailed for life. Did we cover it? Yes, from beginning to end. Derbent, Russia, December 2015 What happened: A gun attack on a citadel in Dagestan killed one person and injured 11 more. It was later claimed by IS. Did we cover it? Yes. Cairo, January 2016 What happened: Nine people, including six policemen, died in a raid on a militant hideout. Did we cover it? Yes. Paris, January 2016 What happened: On the anniversary of the first Paris attacks, a man carrying a meat cleaver was shot dead as he tried to attack a police station. He was found with a piece of paper saying he had pledged allegiance to IS. Did we cover it? Yes. Philadelphia, January 2016 What happened: A police officer was ambushed by a man who had pledged allegiance to IS. Did we cover it? Yes. Hurghada, Egypt, January 2016 What happened: Three tourists were stabbed at the Red Sea resort. Did we cover it? Yes. Marseille, January 2016 What happened: A Turkish Kurd teenager attacked a Jewish teacher in France, saying he was acting in the name of IS. Did we cover it? Yes. Istanbul, January 2016 What happened: A suicide bomber with IS links killed 10 people near the city's Blue Mosque. Did we cover it? Yes. Jakarta, January 2016 What happened: A series of explosions and gun attacks in the Indonesian capital killed eight people, including the four attackers. Did we cover it? Yes - here's everything we know about what occurred. Columbus, Ohio, February 2016 What happened? A man who attacked four people with a machete in a restaurant, Mohamed Barry, was killed by police. He was later found to have IS links. Did we cover it? Yes. Hanover, Germany, February 2016 What happened: In Germany's first attack by an IS sympathiser, a teenage girl stabbed and seriously wounded a police officer in the neck. Did we cover it? Yes, although only when the girl was sentenced to six years in prison in January. Istanbul, March 2016 What happened: A suicide bomber struck a busy shopping area, killing four people. Did we cover it? Yes. Brussels, March 2016 What happened: Bombings at Brussels airport and a metro station in the city killed 32 people from around the world. IS said it was behind the attacks. Did we cover it? Very much so. You can find our entire coverage and analysis here, as well as the run-through of what we know and the stories of the victims. Essen, Germany, April 2016 What happened: A teenager whom police said was motivated by radical Islam bombed a Sikh temple, injuring three people. Did we cover it? Yes. Orlando, June 2016 What happened: The deadliest mass shooting in US history claimed 49 victims at a gay nightclub. Gunman Omar Mateen had pledged allegiance to IS, but his link to the group is unclear. Did we cover it? Yes. Here is our special report into the shooting and here's our detailed run-through of the events of that night. Magnanville, France, June 2016 What happened: A jihadist loyal to IS murdered a couple, both police employees, at their home west of Paris. Did we cover it? Yes. Kabul, June 2016 What happened: This entry could refer either to the Taliban bombing of a police convoy, that killed 30 people and injured 50 more, or to a suicide blast that killed 14 Nepali employees of the Canadian embassy. Istanbul, June 2016 What happened: Three attackers targeted the city's Ataturk airport, firing shots at crowds before blowing themselves up; 45 people were killed, and Turkish authorities said the attackers were linked to IS. Note that another deadly attack in the city in June 2016 was not on the White House's list. Did we cover it? Yes. We also looked at how dangerous the growing instability in Turkey was. Dhaka, July 2016 What happened: Islamist militants stormed a popular cafe in the Bangladeshi capital, killing 22 people. Did we cover it? Yes. Nice, July 2016 What happened: A lorry driver, not known to have jihadist sympathies, drove a lorry into a crowd celebrating Bastille Day, killing 86 people. IS later said he was acting on their behalf. Did we cover it? Thoroughly. Here is what we know about the attack, a look at who committed it, a profile of the victims and analysis on what authorities in Nice had tried to do to stop jihadism. Wurzburg, Germany, July 2016 What happened: A teenager injured four train passengers with an axe. IS released a video purporting to show him making threats. Did we cover it? Yes. Ansbach, Germany, July 2016 What happened: A Syrian man blew himself up, having made a video pledging allegiance to the leader IS. Did we cover it? Yes. Normandy, France, July 2016 What happened: Two men entered a church near Rouen and beheaded Father Jacques Hamel, 86. IS later said two of its "soldiers" had carried out the attack. Did we cover it? Yes. Charleroi, Belgium, August 2016 What happened: A man was shot dead after attacking police with a machete, while shouting "God is great" in Arabic. Did we cover it? Yes. Queensland, Australia, August 2016 What happened: This entry more than likely refers to the killing of British backpacker Mia Ayliffe-Chung, whose attacker is alleged to have said "God is great" before killing her. A British man, Thomas Jackson, was wounded in the attack and later died. Did we cover it? Yes. Copenhagen, December 2016 What happened: Two police officers were shot during an operation in an area inhabited by squatters. While the shooter, a Bosnian-born man, was believed to have had IS sympathies, police said there was no evidence that extremism was behind the attack.. Did we cover it? Yes. Paris, September 2016 What happened: A car packed with gas cylinders was found close to Notre Dame cathedral, in a plot police say was directed by IS. Did we cover it? You know the tune by now. Yes. Sydney, September 2016 What happened: Police said a man who repeatedly stabbed a 59-year-old man in a suburban park and then tried to stab a policeman was inspired by IS. Did we cover it? Yes. St Cloud, Minnesota, September 2016 What happened: Eight people were wounded in a stabbing attack at a shopping mall before the Somali-born attacker, claimed by IS as its "soldier", was shot dead by police. Did we cover it? Yes. New York and New Jersey, September 2016 What happened: A bombing in New York's Chelsea district injured 29 people and an unexploded device was found nearby. Earlier the same day, a pipe bomb exploded in a shore town ahead of a charity race. Afghan-born Ahmad Khan Rahami was later arrested. Did we cover it? Yes, over several days. Brussels, October 2016 What happened: Two police officers were stabbed by a man police said had jihadist sympathies. Did we cover it? Yes. Kuwait City, Kuwait, October 2016 What happened: An Egyptian man was detained after a bin lorry reportedly loaded with explosives crashed into a vehicle carrying five US soldiers. Only the alleged assailant was injured. Did we cover it: No, but here is an article by the Associated Press, via the Chicago Tribune. Malmo, Sweden, October 2016 What happened: A fire at a community centre that caused only minor damage was claimed by IS. Did we cover it? No. But The Local Sweden did, adding that the claim by IS should be "taken with a pinch of salt". Hamburg, October 2016 What happened: The entry probably relates to a raid on suspected Islamist terrorists from Chechnya. Did we cover it? Yes. Manila, Philippines, November 2016 What happened: There was no Islamist attack in the city in this month. The White House is possibly referring to the discovery of a suspected bomb outside the US embassy. Media in the Philippines linked it to a terror group with ties to IS. Did we cover it? No. Columbus, Ohio, November 2016 What happened: IS said it was behind a car and knife rampage at Ohio State University that left 11 people injured. The attack was carried out by a student, Somali-born Abdul Razak Ali Artan. Did we cover it? Yes. N'Djamena, Chad, November 2016 What happened: There were some reports of shots having been fired at the US embassy by an unknown perpetrator on 30 November, and the embassy itself said that there had been "a security incident". This may be the incident referred to by the White House, but no more detail was given. Did we cover it? No. Karak, Jordan, December 2016 What happened: A siege with militants inside a castle left at least 14 people dead, including a Canadian tourist. Did we cover it? Yes. Berlin, December 2016 What happened: A lorry smashed into a crowded Christmas market on 19 December, killing 12 people and injuring 49. Attacker Anis Amri, a Tunisian, was shot dead by Italian police on 23 December in Milan after a Europe-wide manhunt. Did we cover it: In detail, yes. Do you know of a terror attack that the BBC did not report? Tell us about it - where did take place? When did it happen? Email [email protected] By my count, of the 78 events; 3 aren't real; 5 are disputed, 2 not covered; making it 68 of 78 that were covered, rather than covered-up. Of the 2 events the BBC didn't cover, they provide links to other areas of the mainstream media who did cover it. Some of the disputed events are disputed as to whether it was a terrorist attack, or disputed as to which (reported) attack the list refers to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Cotton and Trump plot crackdown on legal immigration http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/immigration-trump-senate-cotton-234706 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wedge Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 So apparently Rosie O'Donnell wants to portray Steve Bannon on SNL. If reports of Trump being pissed that Spicer was portrayed by a woman last week, Rosie might be final push over the edge. I'm all for it! Why, oh, why, is the ****ing President of the USA even caring about comedy? Ugh. This has to be over! Make it so, Rosie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Notone said: Isn't the Daily Mail one of Murdoch's "news outlets"? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 50 minutes ago, The Wedge said: So apparently Rosie O'Donnell wants to portray Steve Bannon on SNL. If reports of Trump being pissed that Spicer was portrayed by a woman last week, Rosie might be final push over the edge. I'm all for it! Why, oh, why, is the ****ing President of the USA even caring about comedy? Ugh. This has to be over! Make it so, Rosie! He has thin skin and is a narcissist. No surprise that he doesn't love the idea of him or anyone he associates being mocked, especially by someone of a different gender. Also the vote for Betsy DeVos is going on now. Doesn't look like Dems have enough votes. It'll be a 50/50 tie with Pence breaking the tiebreak, first time in history for a cabinet nom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Kilmore Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Anyone else wonder if the list was released just to get the press to talk about 70 odd attacks? It doesn't matter if they are legitimate or not, but now it is getting in the headlines and the national conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 None of this matters because those who support little hands deranged blatherings DO NOT READ WHAT WE READ. And what we read reports they never see. They see what little hands coup d'etat team wants them to see. We have many friends in Texas, particularly in Houston, so we tend to cruise the Houston Chronicle online regularly. Look at the Houston Chronicle front page and there's NOTHING, nothing at all about anything we're talking about here. With the promised roll back of NAFTA etc., the only mention is a very small, humorous in-the-corner of the page avocado and a mocking warning that your guacamole might cost a little more . . . . Houston and Texas are filled with many, many people positioned to make a whole new shit load of moola with the support of the big Oyle bidness. We know some of them personally, and while they pretend to be Democrats and certainly favor sustainable energy companies such wind and solar -- and are deeply invested in them -- they know how much money their old businesses are positioned to make them right now. But any case, my relatives, for an example, in the midwest, they don't read ANY newspapers. They look at their newsfeeds on their phones from their churches, their corporations, etc. And they don't care. Everything is hunky dory. Except periodically they get all riled up by little hands in chief about the deep dark bloody future of the national carnage that is coming to get them. They are either indifferent or nuts, and they elected him -- many of them by not even bothering to vote at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Guy Kilmore said: Anyone else wonder if the list was released just to get the press to talk about 70 odd attacks? It doesn't matter if they are legitimate or not, but now it is getting in the headlines and the national conversation. Ay-up. Whenever things aren't going their way, rile up the base with terror. And then the press refutes and attention is again taken away from what they ARE DOING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 And that's that. 50/50 vote for DeVos. Unbelievable. The most unqualified, batshit insane Education Secretary in history with zero understanding of any of the education issues and only experience is with schools is the ones her kids went to which are specifically for the super rich. Can't wait to see how this goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Guy Kilmore said: Anyone else wonder if the list was released just to get the press to talk about 70 odd attacks? It doesn't matter if they are legitimate or not, but now it is getting in the headlines and the national conversation. The list was issued to offset the Bowling Green Massacre, so you forget the BGM. Trump says 'forget about it' as a regular part of his speeches. You heard about some phone calls I made? Forget about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mexal said: And that's that. 50/50 vote for DeVos. Unbelievable. The most unqualified, batshit insane Education Secretary in history with zero understanding of any of the education issues and only experience is with schools is the ones her kids went to which are specifically for the super rich. Can't wait to see how this goes... Un-fucking-real. I'll never be able to grasp why conservatives care so little about their own children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, Dr. Pepper said: Un-fucking-real. I'll never be able to grasp why conservatives care so little about their own children. Political capital and power is more important to them. Just today a TX Sheriff said there was a State Senator who was making it hard to confiscate money or land or something and Trump said "want to tell me his name? We'll destroy his career". They're spineless and afraid of being primaried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mexal said: And that's that. 50/50 vote for DeVos. Unbelievable. The most unqualified, batshit insane Education Secretary in history with zero understanding of any of the education issues and only experience is with schools is the ones her kids went to which are specifically for the super rich. Can't wait to see how this goes... I don't get the surprise on your part. Wasn't there an article linked in on of the previous threads, the two dissenting votes only came to be, because DeVos had the other 50s locked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Thanks @Hereward and @Which Tyler I am always a bit confused which one is Murdoch's: The Sun, The Mirror, or The Daily Mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Notone said: I don't get the surprise on your part. Wasn't there an article linked in on of the previous threads, the two dissenting votes only came to be, because DeVos had the other 50s locked up. I'm not surprised. I'm pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 The more I think about it, the more I believe what Sean Spicer said about Trump's comment on terrorist events not being reported is correct. That Trump meant there isn't enough reporting. Trump speaks like a child. Naïvely and unsophisticatedly. Has anyone ever seen an articulate interview with him? Does he ever use big words or express complex thought? No. I used to think he did it to speak down to his base, but I realize now he's never nuanced because he doesn't know how to be nuanced. He knows how to be sly, but that's something different. ETA: Oh, and back to the not enough coverage remark. How many times have you had that argument with a friend? "Oh the news never covers <insert topic>." "Yes they do, I've seen stories". "Bah, for 2 seconds maybe". When you want to throttle your friend for saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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