Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 When I went to Amazon to drop The Great Ordeal into the cart for pre-order I saw The Thorn of Emberlain was also available for pre-order, in a paperback copy. Is The Thorn of Emberlain going to be released in hardback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Llama Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Yep. Pretty sure that paperback edition is Gollancz's UK edition; they generally release new books in the series in both hardback and paperback simultaneously. Del Rey's US edition, which is not on Amazon yet, will almost certainly be in hardcover -- I mean, we don't know that, but it always is, so I think it's reasonably safe to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 That is defintely the UK paperback edition from Gollancz that you have seen. Del Rey hasn't put it up for sale yet, and until they do, we know for sure that the Gollancz listings are just guesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 What are the chances for TOE actually being released in July? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Close to zero, from what we know. I'll add that I am very sceptical about a 2016 release as well. This book just keeps splipping. The only reason I'm not a 100% on it not being a 2016 release is because there is theoretically still time for it to be finished and fitted into the schedule. But it's firmly in the "who the hell knows" category alongside Doors of Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 From the new Orion/Gollancz catalogue: https://www.orionbooks.co.uk/assets/OrionPublishingGroup/downloads/Catalogues/Orion-Rights-Guide-Frontlist-2016.pdf Quote With a controversial twist in the tale coming, Locke and Jean find themselves sucked into the horror of war. The Gentleman Bastard series continues, and now Locke Lamora, thief, con-man, pirate, political deceiver must become a soldier as finally the war that has been brewing in the Kingdom of the Marrows flares up and threatens to capture all in its flames. And all the while Locke must try to deal with the disturbing rumours about his past revealed in The Republic of Thieves. Fighting a war when you don’t know the truth of right and wrong is one thing. Fighting a war when you don’t know the truth of yourself is quite another. Particularly when you’ve never been that good with a sword anyway... Also by Scott Lynch: The Lies of Locke Lamora (2006); Red Seas Under Red Skies (2007); The Republic of Thieves (2013) Gollancz | July 2016 | 608pp | Ms due May 2016 It looks like Lynch has to deliver the manuscript in May, so that The Thorn of Emberlain can be published in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 35 minutes ago, Jussi said: From the new Orion/Gollancz catalogue: https://www.orionbooks.co.uk/assets/OrionPublishingGroup/downloads/Catalogues/Orion-Rights-Guide-Frontlist-2016.pdf It looks like Lynch has to deliver the manuscript in May, so that The Thorn of Emberlain can be published in July. Leaving the standard rule that a Lynch book isn't out till you're holding it in your hands, I can't help but frown at that ridiculous turn around between submission and publication. What on earth happened to the editing process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Quote Leaving the standard rule that a Lynch book isn't out till you're holding it in your hands, I can't help but frown at that ridiculous turn around between submission and publication. What on earth happened to the editing process? In a lot of cases books are now edited as they are written. Certainly with Republic large chunks of the book were delivered to the editorial team who provided feedback before the first draft of the later chapters was completed. It's rather common now for any book with a large audience already waiting for it. It's nothing new, George was doing it when he was writing A Storm of Swords seventeen years ago. That said, if The Thorn of Emberlain does make it out in July, I would be quite surprised, it has to be said. I was getting the feeling it was going to be autumn at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Yes, but speaking as someone whose own book is currently going through the editing process, there's a big difference between the quality of "editing as the author writes" and "editing the complete manuscript". The latter is infinitely preferable, because you can safely edit with regard to the rest of the story. You know what is necessary and what is bloat. You can spot and deal with plot holes (including plot holes created by editing). Editing as the author writes works fine for polishing up prose, weeding out weak constructions, violations of show-don't-tell, et cetera, but in the case of more structural concerns, it's placing a massive handicap on the editors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Werthead said: That said, if The Thorn of Emberlain does make it out in July, I would be quite surprised, it has to be said. I was getting the feeling it was going to be autumn at best. Orion website is still saying July: https://www.orionbooks.co.uk/books/detail.page?isbn=9780575077058 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Damn, guess I need to finally read the third one huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 On 4/30/2016 at 5:35 PM, Darth Richard II said: Damn, guess I need to finally read the third one huh? I dunno... as mentioned above. Until you actually have ToE on your shelf, I'm not sure any release date is certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 New Orion/Gollancz catalogue (July 2016-January 2017) has been released: https://www.orionbooks.co.uk/assets/OrionPublishingGroup/downloads/Catalogues/Orion-Catalogue-July-2016-to-January-2017.pdf It says that The Thorn of Emberlain will be published in July 2016. http://www.exacteditions.com/read/orionnewtitlescataloguejulyjanuary/orion-new-titles-catalogue-july-2016-january-2017-49709/37/3 Quote Something happens in this book which is hugely controversial and will be the talking point of the year in fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonath Diver Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I swear to God, Scott, if you killed off Jean, I will buy a second copy to support all my love of Camorr, and then use them as kindling for my first bonfire next fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Llama Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Oh, I'll be right there being sad with you, but I am now thoroughly convinced that this is indeed what will happen, to the point where I'd be more surprised if the thing being hyped was anything else. Jean Tannen is a dead man. It feels very strange to see them stick to their guns so completely on this July release date when previous experience [albeit just from the reader's perspective] with how books travel through the production process would suggest to us that it's a next to impossible target to hit and there's not been so much as a peep out of Del Rey about the US release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I'm still half-convinced that Scott's going to pull a fast one and Locke will be the dead one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Nah, Locke and Jean are totes an item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I still don't believe for a second that it is actually coming out in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiDisaster Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 If Jean dies so does much of my love for this series. Locke & Sabbetha (Sp? Audio books) ain't as interesting a duo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 3 hours ago, KiDisaster said: If Jean dies so does much of my love for this series. Locke & Sabbetha (Sp? Audio books) ain't as interesting a duo. It's another reason why bumping off Locke would probably be a more interesting move. Jean and Tabetha work better as there isn't a doomed sense of love overwhelming their interaction and Jean doesn't act like a schoolboy around her. My post from yesterday must have been swallowed but I was also wondering if the story could function without Locke. I think it could - especially if they "cheat" and have the Locke we know die and be replaced by the original version. For that to happen I'd need to be further convinced that it's really true what the bondsmagi told him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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