Aerys Blackfyre Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I think I'll watch it all the same, because what if TWOW never comes out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 It is becoming increasingly more difficult for myself (and others, it seems), to follow the show when I know there's an extended version of the story available. Some people want to watch short programs full of action, and some want to take in a fully-fleshed out story, which most of the time will take QUITE some time to finish. A Feast For Crows is my favourite of ASOIAF thus-far, so I know next season will be demanding, but I can also recognize that it's rather unreasonable to expect the showrunners to faithfully adapt it as well as they already have. Oddly enough, Season 5 is the most excited I've been for Game of Thrones so far, purely because I am curious to see how it's all executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Pounce FTW Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I've said in the past that if you are a show only fan or 'unsullied' as we sometimes call them, don't claim to be the Number 1. Fan of all things Game of Thrones as you cannot even be bothered to read and appreciate the books. This is not a fair statement to make. Game of Thrones is a television show. A viewer who watches it can most definitely say they are the show's number 1 fan. Enjoying the show may push that viewer to seek out the books but there is absolutely no logic in saying a viewer has to have read the books in order to be a fan of the show. That shows a fundamental flaw in understanding that there are different forms of media a story can use and that one doesn't need to know any of the other formats to appreciate, judge or dislike any format in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFeastForDragons Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 It will be very interesting when we have a thread debating wether new scenes/plots are from TWOW or made up by D & D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 It will be very interesting when we have a thread debating wether new scenes/plots are from TWOW or made up by D & D. Really, we're already getting those discussions since characters have been changed/condensed/cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Pounce FTW Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Really, we're already getting those discussions since characters have been changed/condensed/cut. We have but it will get a great deal worse once the episodes air. And forget about season 7 especially if book 6 hasn't come out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ni2tre Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 It will be very interesting when we have a thread debating wether new scenes/plots are from TWOW or made up by D & D. It'll be funnier when it turns out that they are in the book too and the scenes are suddenly well received by book readers. Hopefully we're still alive when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnowed Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I've begun to think of the books and show as completely different entities, and ones that I can enjoy separately. That might help you. Likewise if it helps I've begun to see the books as a more expansive version of the TV, they are one in the same but the books are able to delve far into the details. Note. I started with the show before reading the books:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Cooked Steak Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I'll watch it. I don't know, seeing all the changes they made, instead of everyone else being annoyed by them, I'm fascinated to see what they will turn out with. Now that the second trailer came out, I'm kinda pumped. Sansa is in Winterfell, Jon's going to Hardhome, Brienne, from what I see will be going to the North (that or it's snowing in the Riverlands because winter is on its way), and I am interested in how they handle Dorne with Jaime and Bronn being there and all. And about the omissions, do you really want to see Quentyn? I mean really? The guy didn't really have much of a point, other than show up and die. As for Arianne, we will have an established and more interesting IMO character in Ellaria replacing her, and fAegon... Well, there's too many storylines already, and there are only 7 seasons, each 10 episodes to do it all in, so fAegon showing up would just be make everything messy and cluttered. I will say that I'm disappointed in the omission of the Greyjoys, but it doesn't bother me that much. Seeing how idiotically Asha/Yara ended up last season, I don't have much hope they will really include them, but it's not impossible for at least Euron to show up, if he does something important later on in the books (Or if he's Daario... ha!). So no, I won't stop watching. I think we should reserve judgement until we actually see the season, instead of immediately making decisions about not watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordos Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 So no, I won't stop watching. I think we should reserve judgement until we actually see the season, instead of immediately making decisions about not watching it. You're right that we should not prejudge the season as 'bad' before we see it. It might be the best season yet in terms of views and reviews. However, what is important to me in the story from the books is omitted. Therefore I'm not judging the acting or the costumes or action sequences but the plot itself because the quality of it in my view has been reduced. You might say omitting important events and interesting characters raises the quality of the TV show, but that is strictly a matter of opinion. They lost me not when they omitted my favorite character, but when they omitted that very important incident that happened on the Iron Islands in book 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon in the North Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 You might say omitting important events and interesting characters raises the quality of the TV show, but that is strictly a matter of opinion. They lost me not when they omitted my favorite character, but when they omitted that very important incident that happened on the Iron Islands in book 3. Iron Islands weren't in book 3. Do you mean book 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordos Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 Iron Islands weren't in book 3. Do you mean book 4? No. In book 3 there was a passing reference to something that happened. In book 4 the Iron Islands deal with the aftermath of said incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~DarkHorse~ Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I can't not watch it. I feel like the spoilers we get will be super exciting at first. However, when it comes to reading the book, it will be like knowing what Christmas presents you are getting with a few surprise presents. I'm not sure I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon in the North Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 No. In book 3 there was a passing reference to something that happened. In book 4 the Iron Islands deal with the aftermath of said incident. Oh, I get what you're saying now. I was thinking of something different. Sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriolesmagic Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I don't love all of the omissions either but I understand why they needed to be omitted and I'm not going to whine and moan about not watching the show anymore because it's deviating from the books.Face it, this is likely the only time Game of Thrones will be adapted for a VERY long time. Either choose to enjoy it now or have nothing ASOIAF-related to entertain you until TWOW comes out. Your choice. I don't get why you think boycotting the show is going to make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facebookless Man Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 No. In book 3 there was a passing reference to something that happened. In book 4 the Iron Islands deal with the aftermath of said incident. There's no reason to think that was cut. They can literally deal with the whole thing in one sentence. "Yo dawg, I herd Balon was murdered and his brother showed up out of nowhere and took his place". Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remi of House Myrdal Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 There's no reason to think that was cut. They can literally deal with the whole thing in one sentence. "Yo dawg, I herd Balon was murdered and his brother showed up out of nowhere and took his place". Oops. i hope thats the way they do it. with that exact line, said by hodor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stannisismyking Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Really, we're already getting those discussions since characters have been changed/condensed/cut. And the two collide when GRRM writes an episode: I like this scene - it's obviously got GRRM's quality all over it. I don't like this scene - some of the scenes in this episode aren't written by GRRM yanno. Must be one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Skwisgaar Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 And the two collide when GRRM writes an episode: I like this scene - it's obviously got GRRM's quality all over it. I don't like this scene - some of the scenes in this episode aren't written by GRRM yanno. Must be one of these. I could not disagree more. Look at that trailer. Are you going to tell me that you aren't more excited by some of the possible plot line combinations? You'd rather they cast Jeyne Poole than explore what could happen with Sansa? The scenes added by D&D in S1 are my favorite of that season. They've done a terrific job making the series fascinating to watch. Otherwise, we'd be futzing about the Stinking Goose, looking at soldier pines, and wondering which character could possibly be Ashara Dayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeParking Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I could not disagree more. Look at that trailer. Are you going to tell me that you aren't more excited by some of the possible plot line combinations? You'd rather they cast Jeyne Poole than explore what could happen with Sansa? The scenes added by D&D in S1 are my favorite of that season. They've done a terrific job making the series fascinating to watch. Otherwise, we'd be futzing about the Stinking Goose, looking at soldier pines, and wondering which character could possibly be Ashara Dayne. I think what stannisismyking was saying is that when GRRM writes an episode, some people assume all the good stuff in it was written by GRRM, and anything bad must have been written and added by D&D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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