Lost Melnibonean Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Nobody's gonna read that FAQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artos Targaryen Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 So....new here and my first post but, can heirs be passed over,like the oldest son doesn't inherent but the youngest son does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 So....new here and my first post but, can heirs be passed over,like the oldest son doesn't inherent but the youngest son does? Depends on the circumstances, it can happen. Randyll Tarly considered Sam a weak Lord-to-be. He sent him to the Wall so he would "legally" give up all of his claims and rights and his younger (and better) brother was the heir instead. Duncan the Small willingly gave up his inheritance and his next brother Jaehaerys was then the heir of the throne. And Tyrion had rights to inherit Casterly Rock that Tywin denied him. I think, legally, yes, a son can be passed over. The problem is that, if the son was never on agreement, he can always rebel and war his brother for his rights. Such man can find a lot of support from Lords who wouldn't want a precedent being set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Depends on the circumstances, it can happen.Randyll Tarly considered Sam a weak Lord-to-be. He sent him to the Wall so he would "legally" give up all of his claims and rights and his younger (and better) brother was the heir instead. Duncan the Small willingly gave up his inheritance and his next brother Jaehaerys was then the heir of the throne. And Tyrion had rights to inherit Casterly Rock that Tywin denied him.I think, legally, yes, a son can be passed over. The problem is that, if the son was never on agreement, he can always rebel and war his brother for his rights. Such man can find a lot of support from Lords who wouldn't want a precedent being set.War might npt be necessary. The heir could take his grievance to the overlord or king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 Nobody's gonna read that FAQ.Probably [emoji14]So....new here and my first post but, can heirs be passed over,like the oldest son doesn't inherent but the youngest son does?Welcome!It would appear so, though it will give quite a lot or problems. Walder Frey threatens with naming his youngest child heir over all the others. Arianne Martell believed that her father is willing to name her younger brother heir over her. But doing so will yield a lot of troubles, possibly. In Arianne's case, should it really have occured, there would have been fighting in Dorne. In Walders case, there most likely would have been fighting the second he died.Naming another child then your eldest (son) is thus an extremely rare occurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordImp Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 This has probably been discussed before. If everyone in the line of sucession to the throne dies who gets the throne then? Will it be created a council who appoints a new monarch ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 This has probably been discussed before. If everyone in the line of sucession to the throne dies who gets the throne then? Will it be created a council who appoints a new monarch ? It goes all up the line of dead monarchs to find any branch that has a living candidate. Then, probably a council is needed to determine who will be the new king. The one closest to Aegon I - The Conqueror? The one closest to the last living monarch? The one giving out the greatest presents? The one with the army at my door? etc. eta: the one who marries my daughter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 It goes all up the line of dead monarchs to find any branch that has a living candidate. Then, probably a council is needed to determine who will be the new king. The one closest to Aegon I - The Conqueror? The one closest to the last living monarch? The one giving out the greatest presents? The one with the army at my door? etc. eta: the one who marries my daughter...During 300 years of living in Westeros Targs married into many houses, later descendants of those married into other houses... almost every noble in some regions has some Targaryen ancestors and some claim to the throne... ( like there are more than 4000 people in line of succesion to the British crown ). The claimant with more supporters, money and soldiers would most likely win. Or Great Council would gather and some form of election would take place.... ( like in Poland after death of king Sigismund II Augustus of House Jagiellon, the nobility gathered https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_elections_in_Poland and chose new king ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Mando Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Whats the matter with Sandor Clegane's left ear? From the beginning we are told that he lost it as a child due to the burning, but in ACOK Tyrion notices that he lost his ear during the Battle of the Blackwater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Whats the matter with Sandor Clegane's left ear? From the beginning we are told that he lost it as a child due to the burning, but in ACOK Tyrion notices that he lost his ear during the Battle of the Blackwater? I don't recall that. Can you provide a quote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Mando Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Well, we know that his left ear is only a hole. But in Tyrion XIII from ACOK we learn that: "The steel was scorched and dented, the left ear of the snarling hound sheared off." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Tyrion is just giving a description. That does not actually imply that Sandor lost his ear during the battle of blackwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank-jones Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 the quote is about the hound helmet that he wore, the left ear had been slashed off during the battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Mando Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 the quote is about the hound helmet that he wore, the left ear had been slashed off during the battleAh ok, i think youre right ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank-jones Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Ah ok, i think youre right ;) i hope so haha otherwise the hound has some serious regeneration skills we dont know about ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank-jones Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 does anyone have any information on why Jeor Mormont joined the nights watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 ^His wife died and his eldest son was a man grown ready to rule. In the north it is still considered an honor to join the watch. Castle Black is probably not much worse for an officer than Bear Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 does anyone have any information on why Jeor Mormont joined the nights watch? It's colder on the Bear Island than at Castle Black... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank-jones Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 okay thats a fair enouh answer haha another question, how could house Mormont afford longclaw? they are decribed as a poor house due to having no natural resrouces on the island, was it gifted to them? won, stollen? any ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 okay thats a fair enouh answer haha another question, how could house Mormont afford longclaw? they are decribed as a poor house due to having no natural resrouces on the island, was it gifted to them? won, stollen? any ideas Probably they won it in some war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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