RumHam Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, The Sunland Lord said: So is House Lannister of First Men or Andal heritage? I always thought it was known they were Andals, but the Asoiaf Wiki lists them as a First Men house. Blond, tall people, isn't that a typical Andal appearance. From the wiki: Quote when King Gerold III died without male issue, a council crowned the Andal husband of Gerold's only daughter, Ser Joffrey Lydden, who took the Lannister name. Thus the Lannisters became an Andal house, though their First Men name lived on.[5] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, RumHam said: From the wiki: Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ckram Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said: Stannis, I would suspect received his knighthood from someone at Storm's End. Ser Herbert, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynden Blackfyre Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 15 hours ago, RumHam said: From the wiki: Lann the Clever, the ancestor of the Lannister is believed to have been of First Men descent. You really should read more carefully. Its in the wiki It is disputed though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 56 minutes ago, Brynden Blackfyre said: Lann the Clever, the ancestor of the Lannister is believed to have been of First Men descent. You really should read more carefully. Its in the wiki It is disputed though I'm not sure why you think that information is incompatible with the bit I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ckram Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 58 minutes ago, Brynden Blackfyre said: It is disputed though The wiki also notes "citation needed" for this dispute in Lann the Clever entry, so it is admitting its own inaccuraccy. In turn, House Lannister entry (which Hum Ram referred) has used TWOIAF as source. And Yandel tells us exactly that "when Gerold III died without male issues, a council crowned his only daughter's husband, Ser Joffery Lydden, who took the Lannister name and became the first Andal to rule the Rock." (TWOIAF, the Westerlands) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollygag Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Looks to me like the Lannister origins are muddy on purpose. The unedited Westerlands chapter from TWOIAF on GRRM's website. http://www.georgerrmartin.com/world-of-ice-and-fire-sample/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Ckram said: The wiki also notes "citation needed" for this dispute in Lann the Clever entry, so it is admitting its own inaccuraccy. That's not what the "citation needed" tag means. The tag is placed with a statement which is missing a reference. Is it possible that the statement is incorrect? Sure. But it could also easily be correct (as is often the case). It's just that whoever wrote the sentence or passage in question did not add a reference to the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ckram Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 40 minutes ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said: That's not what the "citation needed" tag means. The tag is placed with a statement which is missing a reference. Is it possible that the statement is incorrect? Sure. But it could also easily be correct (as is often the case). It's just that whoever wrote the sentence or passage in question did not add a reference to the books. I don't know if my english is that bad, but that was exaclty what I had in mind. Maybe "fallibility" was the word. I stand corrected, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynden Blackfyre Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Who has the highest number of posts in the whole forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenmaps Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Was wondering why didn't hoster betroth cat or lysa to either Robert or stannis. Or why wasn't there a marriage between Tully and baratheon in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Bolt Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Robert was already taken and Stannis was younger son, so he would inherit nothing. Historically Tullies and Baratheons had been enemies so there could had been bad blood between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaya Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 hello - my question today is regarding "the book of swords" : does it contain stories applicable to the aSoIaF universe? i have watched the 'BoS' thread grow (but i haven't read it yet) and i need to know if i should buy this book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, Yaya said: hello - my question today is regarding "the book of swords" : does it contain stories applicable to the aSoIaF universe? i have watched the 'BoS' thread grow (but i haven't read it yet) and i need to know if i should buy this book. It has the story The Sons of the Dragon about Aenys and Maegor's reigns. Worth reading, but a lot of the information is covered in the worldbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaya Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 thanks RumHam - i will wait for one of my kinfolk to gift me this on my nameday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euron Lannister Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 said George something about if it is possible to see Valyria in TWOW or ADOS in an interview or somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Euron Lannister said: said George something about if it is possible to see Valyria in TWOW or ADOS in an interview or somewhere else? Only thing I could find about possibly seeing Valyria: Quote Long ago, someone (LindaElane?) learned from GRRM that his visit to New Zealand and Rotorura park (full of geysers, natural hot springs, bubbling mud, and the smell of sulfur) had inspired a location that would appear in the books. That location hasn't appeared yet, but it will in time. Linda and I are guessing Valyria, or possibly Asshai. http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/ssm/category/heraldry/p435/P480 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euron Lannister Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, RumHam said: Only thing I could find about possibly seeing Valyria: thanks ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Quote Galbart and Robett Glover had left Deepwood in the hands of Robett's wife, but it was their steward who came to Winterfell. "My lady begs that you excuse her absence. Her babes are still too young for such a journey, and she was loath to leave them." Bran soon realized that it was the steward, not Lady Glover, who truly ruled at DeepwoodMotte. The man allowed that he was at present setting aside only a tenth of his harvest. A hedge wizard had told him there would be a bountiful spirit summer before the cold set in, he claimed. Maester Luwin had a number of choice things to say about hedge wizards. Ser Rodrik commanded the man to set aside a fifth, and questioned the steward closely about Lord Hornwood's bastard, the boy Larence Snow. In the north, all highborn bastards took the surname Snow. This lad was near twelve, and the steward praised his wits and courage. Bran II, Clash 16 Do we know who the steward is and what has happened to him since Asha took Deepwood Motte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis-something-Rose Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Lost Melnibonean said: Bran II, Clash 16 Do we know who the steward is and what has happened to him since Asha took Deepwood Motte? His name is never given as far as I remember, but he is still alive in ADWD, The Wayward Bride chapter. He lost a leg when Deepwood was taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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