Season 6 trailer

[~DarkHorse~]

20 minutes ago, CONQUI5TADOR said:

They better not kill off Ghost. I will lose my crap if this happens. I love Ghost, maybe im direwolf biased but they seem way more interesting than the dragons. I dont see why Jon couldnt have both a dragon and a direwolf. 

Same. Ghost is my favourite animal in asoiaf/got. Ghost and Jon are also my favourite Direwolf/human duo, so I hope to see Ghost stay alive in the books and for the show to include him more (around Jon!) 

But honestly, I would not be surprised if they have Jon parallel Bran in season 1 with Lady being killed, following Bran opening his eyes. Only this time it will be Ghost being killed and Jon opening his eyes. 

I hope I am wrong. It would be really cool to have Ghost take part in the Battle of the Bastards, fighting along side Jon like Grey Wind did with Robb. What better way to prove himself worthy of leading Stark men, than having a Direwolf at his side? 

[Swan Noire]

3 hours ago, bent branch said:

You're right. After thinking about it, random soft core porn is far more likely than any use of that stupid, boring book material.

I will reiterate, I said that scene may indicate use of some of Victarion's story line.

Dumb and Dumber the raging mysognists never miss a chance to throw more T&A up on the screen. So fitting that one of the scenes they saw fit to include in the trailer is Mel disrobing AGAIN!

[Lautrec]

19 minutes ago, Swan Noire said:

Dumb and Dumber the raging mysognists never miss a chance to throw more T&A up on the screen. So fitting that one of the scenes they saw fit to include in the trailer is Mel disrobing AGAIN!

You really think Benioff and Weiss make the trailers? I'd think twice, if I were you, before calling someone else dumb. Also, since when is the act of a woman disrobing misogyny? These words have an actual meaning. Throwing them around pointlessly is harmful.

[kimim]

4 hours ago, bent branch said:

You're right. After thinking about it, random soft core porn is far more likely than any use of that stupid, boring book material.

I will reiterate, I said that scene may indicate use of some of Victarion's story line.

Random soft core porn might be better than a lot of the material in Dance (imo! ) Sure, they might hand Asha some of Victarion's storyline. That would be better than what GRRM does with her, which is use her not as pov of her own story, but as pov for Stannis.

...but hell, that's ok! We all know D&D are the misogynists. GRRM, not at all, at all.

[Gustavo Fringed Sleeves]

15 minutes ago, kimim said:

Random soft core porn might be better than a lot of the material in Dance (imo! ) Sure, they might hand Asha some of Victarion's storyline. That would be better than what GRRM does with her, which is use her not as pov of her own story, but as pov for Stannis.

...but hell, that's ok! We all know D&D are the misogynists. GRRM, not at all, at all.

You're seriously arguing that after D&D seemingly turned Asha's show equivalent into a lesbian. Like, out of nowhere. All non-girly girls are lesbians, according to them.

The lengths D&D fanboys (and fangirls, it seems) go to defend the show...

Anyway, I finally saw the trailer. I don't think it has made the same impact as in other seasons. They'd better prepare a second one.

[Gendry_Goldeneyes]

1 hour ago, Swan Noire said:

Dumb and Dumber the raging mysognists never miss a chance to throw more T&A up on the screen. So fitting that one of the scenes they saw fit to include in the trailer is Mel disrobing AGAIN!

everyone knows that the scenes with mel disrobing arent only just one of the most important scenes to the storytelling but also one of the best scenes visually.

[Dragon in the North]

2 hours ago, Myrish Swamp-Thing said:

You're seriously arguing that after D&D seemingly turned Asha's show equivalent into a lesbian. Like, out of nowhere. All non-girly girls are lesbians, according to them.

The lengths D&D fanboys (and fangirls, it seems) go to defend the show...

Anyway, I finally saw the trailer. I don't think it has made the same impact as in other seasons. They'd better prepare a second one.

Brienne isn't a lesbian. Neither is Arya.

[Humble AK]

1 hour ago, Myrish Swamp-Thing said:

You're seriously arguing that after D&D seemingly turned Asha's show equivalent into a lesbian. Like, out of nowhere. All non-girly girls are lesbians, according to them.

Some are. Yara is one of those non-stereotypical females who is a lesbian (perhaps; she might be bi). Brienne is a non-stereotypical girl who seems to be into guys (she fell for Renly, then she fell for Jaime). Arya is a non-stereotypical girl who also seems into guys (she seemed to be into Gendry). Ygritte is another non-stereotypical girl who seemed to be into guys. This seems to be a fair distribution of heterosexual to homosexual demographics among warrior women (though I'm not sure what the census statistics are on that one).

And the show hasn't really gone deep into Yara's sexuality (or at all, really, because I don't think her Theon interaction was sexual on her part, it was more a power play), so it's not out of nowhere.

 

[Gustavo Fringed Sleeves]

1 hour ago, Dragon in the North said:

Brienne isn't a lesbian. Neither is Arya.

Some people working on the show (like one director, Alex Graves) seem to be under the "impression" that she is. Now you're gonna tell me "the off-screen impressions of people involved in the show don't matter", but they do, actually.

@Humble AK The point is, Yara's book version is heterosexual. Why change that? Will there be a good reason? I doubt it.

[A Ghost of Someone]

3 minutes ago, Myrish Swamp-Thing said:

Some people working on the show (like one director, Alex Graves) seem to be under the "impression" that she is. Now you're gonna tell me "the off-screen impressions of people involved in the show don't matter", but they do, actually.

@Humble AK The point is, Yara's book version is heterosexual. Why change that? Will there be a good reason? I doubt it.

Alex Graves never really read the books and spouts off his mouth acting like he has. That is frustrating.

[Humble AK]

15 minutes ago, Myrish Swamp-Thing said:

Some people working on the show (like one director, Alex Graves) seem to be under the "impression" that she is. Now you're gonna tell me "the off-screen impressions of people involved in the show don't matter", but they do, actually.

Well, if you say it matters then it must be so. That's how facts work, I suppose.

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The point is, Yara's book version is heterosexual. Why change that? Will there be a good reason? I doubt it.

In the books it seemed like Xaro was homosexual and they changed him to heterosexual. Why? I don't know and I don't care because it's an incredibly small detail. Why did they change Yara's sexuality? Maybe because they felt there wasn't a broad enough gay representation and it gave them chance to have some lesbian action for a change over the gay male action? Two birds, one stone. Who knows? And I don't care about this either. They could have done it just for the hell of it and it wouldn't matter to me because I don't consider Yara's sexuality anymore important to the plot of Game of Thrones than her food preference.

 

[Gustavo Fringed Sleeves]

4 minutes ago, Humble AK said:

Well, if you say it matters then it must be so. That's how facts work, I suppose.

I called it and you didn't disappoint.

5 minutes ago, Humble AK said:

In the books it seemed like Xaro was homosexual and they changed him to heterosexual. Why? I don't know and I don't care because it's an incredibly small detail. Why did they change Yara's sexuality? Maybe because they felt there wasn't a broad enough gay representation and it gave them chance to have some lesbian action for a change over the gay male action? Two birds, one stone. Who knows? And I don't care about this either. They could have done it just for the hell of it and it wouldn't matter to me because I don't consider Yara's sexuality anymore important to the plot of Game of Thrones than her food preference.

There is little from show-Xaro that resembles book-Xaro, and he's like a 4th-tier character so most people let it slide. Asha is a POV and a secondary character (we're talking about a series with enough characters to make a lot of tiers here). Would it be OK if they turned Arya, a primary character, into a lesbian as well, or do we draw the line here?

You might tell me that Yara has a different name than Asha and that gives them free rein to write her however they please. Fair enough, they have that excuse. But you can't really tell me that someone's sexuality is interchangeable in terms of narrative. Might as well say that any character trait is interchangeable, and that's preposterous. Do you specialize in preposterous claims?

[Dragon in the North]

1 hour ago, Myrish Swamp-Thing said:

Some people working on the show (like one director, Alex Graves) seem to be under the "impression" that she is. Now you're gonna tell me "the off-screen impressions of people involved in the show don't matter", but they do, actually.

One man's opinion isn't significant. Besides, you said that D&D feel this way, which is contradicted by what they've presented in      the show. Brienne's love for Renly is clearly seen in the show, as is her growing affection for Jaime. 

[StarkofWinterfell]

Looks like it'll be wildlings versus Boltons

[Ingelheim]

When Davos says the "Apologies for what you are about to see" bit, you get the context of that scene.

Those NW men are, without a doubt, Jon loyalists. There's another scene with Thorne and Marsh trying to break into some room, probably because they know Mel can do some weird stuff with Jon's body.

Another plausible alternative? They are going after every single Jon loyalist on CB, not after Jon's body. Either way, there's going to be a fight between NW members.

[Channel4s-JonSnow]

7 minutes ago, Ingelheim said:

When Davos says the "Apologies for what you are about to see" bit, you get the context of that scene.

Those NW men are, without a doubt, Jon loyalists. There's another scene with Thorne and Marsh trying to break into some room, probably because they know Mel can do some weird stuff with Jon's body.

Another plausible alternative? They are going after every single Jon loyalist on CB, not after Jon's body. Either way, there's going to be a fight between NW members.

Really, I got the exact opposite impression. Maybe there is something I'm missing.

[dsug]

Who gives a fuck if Yara's a lesbian or not? Last time I checked, who or what Asha is attracted to is not much of an issue in the books. And people saying they are throwing in random lesbian scenes for tittilation when they wouldn't do it it with a gay scene: I invite you to watch Loras numerous sex scenes with Renly and Olyvar. 

And besides, I'd rather see Yara having an affair with a woman spying on her for Euron be an actual plot point then just random fingerbanging like in the books. Dany and Irri had literally no purpose. Cersei and Taena was just strange. 

[Ingelheim]

3 minutes ago, Channel4s-JonSnow said:

Really, I got the exact opposite impression. Maybe there is something I'm missing.

They want you to think that way. My lil bro was all like "WOW, DAVOS IS GOING NUTS AGAINST THOSE 4-5 MEN", which made me think about it, and realized that Davos would never do that. Those men are simply Jon loyalists. There's no other logical explanation. Davos is no fighter, so he is not going after all those guys alone, it makes no sense for him, he is not going to win that fight. 

Most of ep.1, if you ask me, is going to be about the internal war of the NW,

[Channel4s-JonSnow]

1 minute ago, Ingelheim said:

They want you to think that way. My lil bro was all like "WOW, DAVOS IS GOING NUTS AGAINST THOSE 4-5 MEN", which made me think about it, and realized that Davos would never do that. Those men are simply Jon loyalists. There's no other logical explanation. Davos is no fighter, so he is not going after all those guys alone. 

Most of ep.1, if you ask me, is going to be about the internal war of the NW,

But why would Davos being against Jon loyalists? What would they want with the body anyway.

Surely its much more plausible that the NW want to burn the body to stop it becoming a snow zombie, and Mel and Davos have some sort of plan to bring Jon back to life and need to protect his body.

[Ingelheim]

Just now, Channel4s-JonSnow said:

But why would Davos being against Jon loyalists? What would they want with the body anyway.

Surely its much more plausible that the NW want to burn the body to stop it becoming a snow zombie, and Mel and Davos have some sort of plan to bring Jon back to life and need to protect his body.

Emm, no, maybe I expressed myself wrong, I'm actually saying Davos is with the loyalist party.