Fox of House McCloud Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Am I missing something, or would Margaery have a different method of atonement than Cersei, considering their distinctly different crimes? Is the only way for a woman to atone any sin walking naked through King's Landing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrist Simon Steele Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, GeorgeIAF said: Serious question for you all. Would you be happier if the show was canceled ? I think not. It has its flaws and ups and downs but in the end it is a good rendition of the books (even the books have ups and downs in them). This episode's only moment which didn't fit in was Osha's killing ... I'm done watching after that to be honest. The capture of Rickon, Osha's killing, it's just sadistic. Sansa's rape, Shireen's burning, there's something the shows are doing the books didn't convey on the page. I won't be finishing the show. I'll wait for the books to be finished. I don't care if the show is canceled, people seem to like it, so let them watch and like it, but it's not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greenseer Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, Nerevanin said: what I didn't like: - Brienne's scene with Davos and Mel. Like she came up to them like "I killed Stannis, sucks, right?" - poor Osha. I get that Ramsay has no use of her but I'm still sad that she was killed like this. BUT, I am happy that they bothered to bring the actress back instead of just making a head. - I honestly didn't like the KL scenes much because it seemed to me like talking talking while saying nothing. - I honestly couldn't care less about Meereen since the beginning of the season. I've never liked much the Slaver's Bay storyline both in the show and in the books but now in the show, it's just so uneventful... - Dany trust the member of dosh khaleen after knowing her for like 2 minutes - suddenly Dany is fireproof. But I suppose that I wouldn't mind that that much but what I really didn't like was like they did again the thing with Dany surviving a fire = everybody kneels before her. I really wonder if this is how it is in the books. - Jon apparently doesn't notice that Sansa implicitly said that Bran and Rickon are alive. But excluding Brienne and Dany these were mostly minor issues. To be fair Jon does know in the show that Bran and Rickon are alive. Sam told him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerevanin Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ser Greenseer said: To be fair Jon does know in the show that Bran and Rickon are alive. Sam told him. Oh sh... It's true, I totally forgot about it. That's the problem with that I read the books - something I forget what got changed when it is such a thing. Sorry about it then, I take it back, and thank you for reminding me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Barry Whitebeard Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 23 minutes ago, Nerevanin said: - Jon apparently doesn't notice that Sansa implicitly said that Bran and Rickon are alive. But excluding Brienne and Dany these were mostly minor issues. In the show, Sam told Jon about Bran and Rickon being alive. Now the news of Arya would be more interesting to him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 So the saviour of the world, the Prince who was Promised sits around moping with no direction in life until his little sister Sansa arrives to tell him what to do. What was the point of his resurrection? There was certainly no character awakening there. And we know Asha tries and loses at the Kingsmoot in the books. Not so in the Show, where Theon is going to help her become Queen. We know Sansa is being set up to become Lady of the Vale as Harry the Heir's wife in the books, but in the Show they have shoved Rickon aside to have Sansa take his place as Queen in the North. Now we have Dany the Queen of Essos, and Cersei and Margaery, the dual Queens of King's Landing. Might as well call it the Game of Queens and be done with it. Jaime is full retard, Jon is directionless and the Umbers are traitors. And oh yes, the Hound got his ass kicked by Brienne. Are there any heroic males in this series? This Show sucks balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncg87 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 In sure this has all been covered by here's my main thoughts from watching that. Episode 4 and finally Davos starts asking questions! Brienne casually letting Davos and Melisandre know she executed Stanis and just strolls off. Although the whole Tormund having a thing for her does make me laugh. But my absolute favourite of the episode Dany and the magical fire that burns off clothes but not hair! How very convenient! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince of Porne Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 hour ago, GeorgeIAF said: Serious question for you all. Would you be happier if the show was canceled ? At this point, yes. Quote It has its flaws and ups and downs but in the end it is a good rendition of the books Lol, no. No it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Storm Reborn Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 logic in this show is right in the same place as d&d's quality writing, donal noye and stannis's battlefield scouts... 20 good men is all the show needs, and khaleesi showing the t's on fire backgrounds... oh, does anyone know the porpuse of the dorne angle?? or is it too early to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Did someone ask if the Show should be cancelled? Count me in the Yes camp. Without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSmith84 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Why does no one give a f*&^ about geography in this show? The Fingers are in the Vale; why isn't Royce saying 'hey you f*&^ing liar, no way did Bolton men somehow slip past the Bloody Gate and make it all the way to the Fingers with no one spotting and stopping them.' And of course, Royce's own men turn on him because... why? This is a feudal society, those men are sworn to House Royce. Men who have spent their lives serving Bronze Yohn are not going to murder him just because their little boy lord says so. Whatever, I suppose they have to try and justify the ridiculous Ramsey marries Sansa plot somehow. F*&^ off, mopey Snow. You've died and come back to life, that should make you more interesting. Brienne can die in the show, for all I care. I don't like her chapters in Feast, but I at least like her. Show Brienne is such a pompous, arrogant cow that I'm actively cheering for her to suffer a horrible fate. Osha dies, because no one in this series can survive if they're kind and decent. At least that makes sense though. I can't see why Ramsey would keep her alive, unless it was to torture her. You know, I just feel so disappointed in this show. I really want it to be good, but it keeps wasting every opportunity to be so. I'd love to watch this show happily, as I once did, comparing and contrasting the two. I'd like to enjoy the differences and appreciate the different directions the show goes in. Instead, I watch it like some grim murder investigation; I just want to find out the end. And I'm angry at George for not finishing the books before the show, because I am not wasting enormous amounts of energy trying to avoid spoilers for however long it takes him to finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerJeremiahLouistark Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 So after the rewatch of the only 7 minutes of this episode worth a fuck (other than the 4 minutes spent on the pink letter) Jon definitely only says "father" not "your father". I thought he said your father too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerJeremiahLouistark Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Nerevanin said: what I didn't like: - Brienne's scene with Davos and Mel. Like she came up to them like "I killed Stannis, sucks, right?" - poor Osha. I get that Ramsay has no use of her but I'm still sad that she was killed like this. BUT, I am happy that they bothered to bring the actress back instead of just making a head. - I honestly didn't like the KL scenes much because it seemed to me like talking talking while saying nothing. - I honestly couldn't care less about Meereen since the beginning of the season. I've never liked much the Slaver's Bay storyline both in the show and in the books but now in the show, it's just so uneventful... - Dany trust the member of dosh khaleen after knowing her for like 2 minutes - suddenly Dany is fireproof. But I suppose that I wouldn't mind that that much but what I really didn't like was like they did again the thing with Dany surviving a fire = everybody kneels before her. I really wonder if this is how it is in the books. - Jon apparently doesn't notice that Sansa implicitly said that Bran and Rickon are alive. But excluding Brienne and Dany these were mostly minor issues. Jon knows they are alive because Sam saw Bran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 The only thing i disliked about this episode is Osha dying. (but i honestly think she asked to be written out of the show. Wasnt the actress pregnant at the time of shooting? She really kinda looked it.) But Osha did go out kinda awesomely. Shame it wasnt a mutual kill. I am getting really bored with the High Sparrow plot. Time to hurry it along. Oh yeah, i am getting bored with Tyrion and honestly, i think Dany is gonna be snapping mad when she hears about his terms with the Masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSmith84 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Btw, did Jon just give up on finding Bran ever? He led one expedition North, vaguely hoping to find him, and then never mentioned him again as far as I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Just now, WSmith84 said: Btw, did Jon just give up on finding Bran ever? He led one expedition North, vaguely hoping to find him, and then never mentioned him again as far as I can remember. The lack of plot logic in this Show has become glaring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSmith84 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Free Northman Reborn said: The lack of plot logic in this Show has become glaring. As far as I recall, he didn't (for example) ask Mance (when he was a prisoner) if they maybe came across a crippled boy on their way South. Little details would help this show enormously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TepidHands Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 This isn't a debate thread. Don't derail the thread by being drawn into debates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden Wolf Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Just thought of something, Carol says the Tyrells have the second largest army in Westeros...who the hell has the largest? Why did it take Mace and Olenna having to be told by carol of all fucking people to bring heir army into Kingslanding to get the Queen and the Heir of Highgarden (because we can't have full families around here) away from religious fanatics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakin1013 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Ramsay Bolton is a complete one-dimensional bad guy. He has been Olly-fied (always on the screen and always bad) beyond all reason and now represents torture porn. Whatever -path he is, psycho-, socio-, or both, the writers have turned a bad guy into nothing but a bad guy. Any complexity - gone. Any motivations - gone. He is no longer of any interest to me as a viewer because he is so predictable as to border on boring: Give me Sansa so I can kill her. I have Rickon and I will kill him. Yesterday I killed Osha. The day before that I killed Walda, day before that I ..... There is that old saying, that to a small boy with a hammer, everything is a nail... To these writers, why just write up a complex bad guy when you can create a flat monster. So they did. Roose, evil though he was, was more interesting than twisted Ramsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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