Rant & Rave Season 8 [Spoilers]: When you are cool like a cucumber, as evil as the mother of madness, but never as perfect as the pet!

[Lady Fevre Dream]

7 minutes ago, divica said:

but before covid they had a show planed right? I remember readind about it somewhere.

And a couple years ago, they were doing Star Wars stuff?  And now, they are not.  Beyond old announcements and ideas, I see and hear nothing.  They are just the guys that did, and destroyed, GOT. 

[Nowy Tends]

5 hours ago, Lady Fevre Dream said:

And a couple years ago, they were doing Star Wars stuff?  And now, they are not.  Beyond old announcements and ideas, I see and hear nothing.  They are just the guys that did, and destroyed, GOT. 

They were hired for the The Three Body Problem adaptation, and then the main producer was killed by poison given to him by his assistant… Since then, the project has not been heard from again.

[divica]

10 minutes ago, Nowy Tends said:

They were hired for the The Three Body Problem adaptation, and then the main producer was killed by poison given to him by his assistant… Since then, the project has not been heard from again.

that does look like something that could happen in the GoT universe

[divica]

Funny podcast. James Hibberd talks about got, prequels, and the books between min 4 and 18.

‎TV's Top 5: April 9, 2021 - 'Bridgerton' star's exit explained; 'Made for Love' boss on Cristin Milioti and a second season on Apple Podcasts

[Count Balerion]

FIRE CANNOT KILL A DRAGON, CHAPTER 28.

ms. christie also went on long walk

hill (varys): "at the time, nothing could console me ..."

"then there was KH's reaction -- or lack thereof." told EC he hadn't read it; wanted to read it w/ friends/colleagues.

weiss: "kit's not writing us. ... f***. does he hate it? if he hates it, does that mean we got it wrong?"

rory mccann says he blew a trumpet before the "so-called clegane bowl".

KH cried at dany death and upon reading "end of GOT".

 

[Le Cygne]

Once again they are being disingenuous, saying gee, I wonder if they hated it... It's not like they gave a damn what they thought. Just shut up and say the lines is what they told the actors.

Anyone over the age of 5 could have told them most people would hate it. Most of the actors said in varying degrees of directness that they had a problem with it and we would, too.

[Crixus]

On 4/15/2021 at 8:20 PM, Lady Fevre Dream said:

So, this is the clip that came by my TTL on Twitter today.

For The North?  Jon Snow centric? 

 

Honestly, I don't know whether to be mad or sad:  It is so obvious in this trailer that there is a flow thread lacking in the whole thing.  The beginning and the end are not connected by any kind of sensible middle?  It's such a disconnect. 

So true. The last minute or more is like a melodramatic Bollywood movie, lol. 

[SeanF]

10 hours ago, Count Balerion said:

FIRE CANNOT KILL A DRAGON, CHAPTER 28.

ms. christie also went on long walk

hill (varys): "at the time, nothing could console me ..."

"then there was KH's reaction -- or lack thereof." told EC he hadn't read it; wanted to read it w/ friends/colleagues.

weiss: "kit's not writing us. ... f***. does he hate it? if he hates it, does that mean we got it wrong?"

rory mccann says he blew a trumpet before the "so-called clegane bowl".

KH cried at dany death and upon reading "end of GOT".

 

Emilia Clarke was, as we know, quite devastated after reading the script, and that was even before she realised that she was meant to have wantonly slaughtered civilians.

 

8 hours ago, Le Cygne said:

Once again they are being disingenuous, saying gee, I wonder if they hated it... It's not like they gave a damn what they thought. Just shut up and say the lines is what they told the actors.

Anyone over the age of 5 could have told them most people would hate it. Most of the actors said in varying degrees of directness that they had a problem with it and we would, too.

The percentage of the fandom who wanted Jon and Daenerys to come to wretched ends, while rooting for Sansa, Tyrion, and Bran, must be less than 5%.

[Le Cygne]

3 hours ago, SeanF said:

Emilia Clarke was, as we know, quite devastated after reading the script, and that was even before she realised that she was meant to have wantonly slaughtered civilians.

The percentage of the fandom who wanted Jon and Daenerys to come to wretched ends, while rooting for Sansa, Tyrion, and Bran, must be less than 5%.

I remember when the spoilers came out, I said oh, so they kill all the dynamic people off, and end up with the dull ones. That should be a dull ending.

Everyone either threw their lives away or were handed token empty endings. And the Most Moral Man in the Universe arranged chairs at a table.

[Count Balerion]

i was rooting for bronn to be lord of highgarden since season 1, weren't you?

[Count Balerion]

and yeah, EC got to be devastated about her character twice. that must have been a riot.

[SeanF]

1 hour ago, Count Balerion said:

and yeah, EC got to be devastated about her character twice. that must have been a riot.

The two stooges come over as having been actively malicious towards Emilia Clarke and Kit Harrington.  They spent Season 8, pissing on both characters that they played.

[Minsc]

21 minutes ago, SeanF said:

The two stooges come over as having been actively malicious towards Emilia Clarke and Kit Harrington.  They spent Season 8, pissing on both characters that they played.

What character did they not piss on? Bronn? Tywin? Even Tyrion and Cersei who they adore ended up looking like idiots for the bulk of the time at the end.

[Angel Eyes]

21 hours ago, Minsc said:

What character did they not piss on? Bronn? Tywin? Even Tyrion and Cersei who they adore ended up looking like idiots for the bulk of the time at the end.

Bronn’s the main one, they’re downright liars about Tywin being “lawful neutral”. Another is Arya since she gets the cool stuff going on with her such as killing the Night King even though she hijacked Jon’s purpose. 

Speaking of which, I was doing a rewatch of Avatar: The Last Airbender and I realized how Jon could have fulfilled his plotline by being the one to face the Night King. Major spoilers! 

Spoiler

In the finale, Team Avatar (minus the missing Aang) meets up with the Order of the White Lotus outside Ba Sing Se. The leader, Zuko’s Uncle Iroh, explains that Aang, as the Avatar, must be the one to face Fire Lord Ozai and defeat him from a political standpoint to show that the Fire Lord‘s (aka Phoenix King) were wrong. For instance, Iroh could defeat Ozai, but it would look like two brothers fighting over power rather than the Avatar putting Ozai in his place for upsetting the balance of the world.

So in the case of Jon facing the Night King, throw in a line that Jon is the only one who can face the Night King, because of the power in his bloodline.

[Count Balerion]

FIRE CANNOT KILL A DRAGON, CHAPTER 29. THE LONGEST HOUR AND A HALF AND I CAN'T SEE THIS RUBBISH SO BLEEAH. PART 1

"but had anyone understood in season 1 where the show would be heading, winterfell would have been put in a different spot and not a boggy sheep farm."

logistics hard enough w/out wading knee-deep in mud.

"when you factored in the amount of time the THRONES team spent filming the final season, the intensity of staging the final season, ... and the show's brutal outdoor working conditions, the obstacles faced by the show's cast and crew during season eight were, as NCW put it, 'unheard of'."

KH: what was a 1-day shot 2 years ago is a 5-day shot now. "consistently having to have your emotions that high, it became f***ing exhausting."

"arguably the longest consecutive battle sequence ever filmed -- an 82-min. episode."

boonioff: "having the largest battle doesn't sound very exciting. ... part of our challenge -- and really miguel's challenge -- was how to keep that compelling."

sapochnik: "at some point you exhaust an audience." "why, as an audience member, would i care to keep watching."

"... a variety of character-driven stories."

weiss: "story [driven] by character, not by how many swords and spears you can swing around." "most battles are the last 15 mins. of a movie for a reason. ppl lose interest."

[Angel Eyes]

You know, I was kinda disappointed by the lack of fire/flammable used by the defenders in the Long Night. And not like they didn’t have flammable, just watch the next episode. They just had the fire trench, fire arrows, and nothing else; no pitch, no rolling a burning log or burning barrels like the Night’s Watch in Season 4 down into the wights. Now that would have been a cool visual; setting a series of barrels on fire and seeing it blow up a column of wights. 

... I just made an idea completely based on Rule of Cool. How did I do?

[Le Cygne]

It was a dark and stupid night.

To break up the monotony of special effects you couldn't see, they trotted out monotonous moments with "those faces" you could barely see.

Benioff/Weiss/Cogman were the Night King to the characters. They sucked all the life out of the characters, who did the predictable bidding of their masters.

"I'm just here to die" and "I'm just here to be a prop to this character they like better" and "I'm just here to {scream at a dragon}"... all the usual stuff.

And then of course, Arya Ninja Turtle. The WTF moment. Which was also the usual stuff.

All that money on absolutely nothing at all. They could have skipped it, and someone could have just said "Arya jumped out of nowhere and it's all over."

[SeanF]

8 hours ago, Count Balerion said:

FIRE CANNOT KILL A DRAGON, CHAPTER 29. THE LONGEST HOUR AND A HALF AND I CAN'T SEE THIS RUBBISH SO BLEEAH. PART 1

"but had anyone understood in season 1 where the show would be heading, winterfell would have been put in a different spot and not a boggy sheep farm."

logistics hard enough w/out wading knee-deep in mud.

"when you factored in the amount of time the THRONES team spent filming the final season, the intensity of staging the final season, ... and the show's brutal outdoor working conditions, the obstacles faced by the show's cast and crew during season eight were, as NCW put it, 'unheard of'."

KH: what was a 1-day shot 2 years ago is a 5-day shot now. "consistently having to have your emotions that high, it became f***ing exhausting."

"arguably the longest consecutive battle sequence ever filmed -- an 82-min. episode."

boonioff: "having the largest battle doesn't sound very exciting. ... part of our challenge -- and really miguel's challenge -- was how to keep that compelling."

sapochnik: "at some point you exhaust an audience." "why, as an audience member, would i care to keep watching."

"... a variety of character-driven stories."

weiss: "story [driven] by character, not by how many swords and spears you can swing around." "most battles are the last 15 mins. of a movie for a reason. ppl lose interest."

Well, he got that right at least.

[Ghostlydragon]

6 hours ago, Angel Eyes said:

You know, I was kinda disappointed by the lack of fire/flammable used by the defenders in the Long Night. And not like they didn’t have flammable, just watch the next episode. They just had the fire trench, fire arrows, and nothing else; no pitch, no rolling a burning log or burning barrels like the Night’s Watch in Season 4 down into the wights. Now that would have been a cool visual; setting a series of barrels on fire and seeing it blow up a column of wights. 

... I just made an idea completely based on Rule of Cool. How did I do?

Speaking of fire (and how does this not get bought up when the cool visual of the flaming swords comes up) how was it that not one flaming Dothraki sword set a single wight on fire? The winter conditions were a joke so there is no way the fire would have been put out by the weather but why didn't the Dothraki create a huge inferno that would have destroyed thousands of the undead?

[Count Balerion]

the plot said they couldn't. or to qute boonioff, "you've got to wonder what thw blazes is this plot." well yes.