DMC Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: As opposed to not knowing their coming and not being able to do anything, including surveil them? So, after they get off the plane they're gonna surveil them and do what exactly? To what end? Hope they catch them in the act of committing some other crime? Lead them to the MAGA lair? You're still not making much sense. 18 minutes ago, Jaxom 1974 said: Does a higher number move the needle for McConnell at all? Get him to bring it to the floor by the weekend, say? First McConnell has to agree to put the Senate back in session. They there has to be a "trial." Nothing's getting to the floor by the weekend, even if he was completely aggressive about convicting Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Nvm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kalbear Total Landscaping said: hmm Yes, I mentioned this in the last thread, CNN was playing a video of his over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alguien Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 55 minutes ago, Kalbear Total Landscaping said: I'm going to be incredibly amused if Trump ends up going down because someone out-Trumped Trump and betrayed him when it was valuable to do so. (I don't give this much hope, mind you. But it would be delicious) My immediate thought was, "Ahh, so Tywin Lannister finally decided he's done with the Mad King and it's time to sack King's Landing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mindwalker said: Fixed that for you. I kinda don’t think so. It may loosen their power. Democrats only hold slight majorities in the senate and house. If one democratic senator in a state with a Republican governor dies Biden would be effectively gridlocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: I kinda don’t think so. It may loosen their power. Democrats only hold slight majorities in the senate and house. If one democratic senator in a state with a Republican governor dies Biden would be effectively gridlocked. Oh, I didn't read your previous post properly! Recklessly, yes, absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 43 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: If Liz is voting to impeach I suspect the numbers could be higher than expected. His actions today, in denying he deserves any blame for what happened, is only going to further alienate him from the "adults" in the party. They are afraid of Trump winning the GOP nomination only to lose again in 2024, and possibly even 2028 . Sure, that means that whoever goes against him might have trouble in 2024, but considering the economic recovery that will come with the vaccine becoming available worldwide, 2024 is a likely defeat for the Republicans anyway. Getting rid of the stench of Trump benefits them in the long run, they already got what they wanted from him. Plus, some the donors already indicated they won't stand for that kind of non-sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, DMC said: So, after they get off the plane they're gonna surveil them and do what exactly? To what end? Hope they catch them in the act of committing some other crime? Lead them to the MAGA lair? You're still not making much sense. If they are a person of interest and the governement is unable to actually limit their movements, gee, why would you want to keep an eye on them? The logic was explained in the post that kicked this whole discussion off. A no fly list is actually not that useful when there are other alternatives and possibly detrimental when those alternatives are slightly more difficult (for the traveler) but leave a thinner paper trail. 4 hours ago, IheartIheartTesla said: Yeah all this 'no-fly list' stuff is security theater, nothing more. I understand its supposed to limit your mobility but it really doesnt. The one thing flying does is make you go through security, creates a paper trail, and actually significantly increases your travel time for moderate distances. On the other hand, you could drive from point A to point B in this country without leaving a trace anywhere - borrow a friend's car, pay for cash everywhere etc. Putting people of no-fly zones will just make them do the latter and you have no way of knowing what they are up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Wow, that'll teach him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I haven't seen this one before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, Kalbear Total Landscaping said: hmm They must be identified and expelled immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Just now, Mindwalker said: Wow, that'll teach him! Hell yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, Winterfell is Burning said: They are afraid of Trump winning the GOP nomination only to lose again in 2024, and possibly even 2028 . Sure, that means that whoever goes against him might have trouble in 2024, but considering the economic recovery that will come with the vaccine becoming available worldwide, 2024 is a likely defeat for the Republicans anyway. Getting rid of the stench of Trump benefits them in the long run, they already got what they wanted from him. Plus, some the donors already indicated they won't stand for that kind of non-sense. Way, way too early to predict 2024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fragile Bird Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: They must be identified and expelled immediately. Not only did Ali say he was organizing a rally on the 6th with 3 congressmen, he also said to expect a big surprise. Remember when we were talking about strange allies among religious groups, was it you who said wait until you see Jews for Jesus? Watching Ali’s video on CNN all I could think of was, wtf is this, Muslims for Trump? Maybe the guy’s a Christian, I don’t know, but I was astonished at the idea the racist Trump crowd was being organized by this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Received this alert earlier: Quote This is an important message from the District of Columbia AlertDC system. MPD reports there will intermittent road closures today at the following locations due to security fence installation. Please use caution in the area. 1. 18th Street at Constitution Avenue, NW 2. 17th Street at Independence Avenue, SW 3. 11th Street at Independence Avenue, SW 4. 12th Street at Independence Avenue, SW 5. 7th Street at Madison Drive, NW 6. 7th Street at Jefferson Drive, SW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: If they are a person of interest and the governement is unable to actually limit their movements, gee, why would you want to keep an eye on them? Once they get off the plane the government is still "unable to actually limit their movements" in the exact same way they were before they got on the plane. All you accomplished was allowing them to fly to their intended destination. You're acting like other than flying, these people are entirely off the grid. Obviously if you're able to put them on a no fly list they've already been identified and the authorities have information on them. If the feebs are intent on/have the resources to surveil them, they can do so without allowing them to fly. Your logic simply makes no sense to me, no need to be a dick about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: Not only did Ali say he was organizing a rally on the 6th with 3 congressmen, he also said to expect a big surprise. He better not let me down, because a big surprise in my book ranges from Sam Jackson getting eaten by a shark to a T-Rex stealth killing a raptor after getting into the command center despite there being no fucking door it could actually fit through. Quote Remember when we were talking about strange allies among religious groups, was it you who said wait until you see Jews for Jesus? Watching Ali’s video on CNN all I could think of was, wtf is this, Muslims for Trump? Maybe the guy’s a Christian, I don’t know, but I was astonished at the idea the racist Trump crowd was being organized by this guy. Irrational hate breeds strange bedfellows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On McConnell, his actions thus far do not comport with his words (or, rather, reported words). I'd say it's wise to rely solely on the former in terms of getting your hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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