Martell Spy Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Two major past backers of Kyrsten Sinema are threatening to end their support if she won't relent on the filibuster and get election reform done: EMILY's List and NARAL. A fresh sign of rising (and almost-surely-unsuccessful) pressure from the left. https://www.politico.com/minutes/congress/01-18-2022/sinemas-backer-threat/ Quote What happened: EMILY's List, which aims to elect pro-choice Democratic women and can be a key factor in party primaries, blasted out a statement Monday threatening to pull its support for Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) in the future if she doesn't support changes to the filibuster needed to enact an election reform bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 18 hours ago, DMC said: Well, yes, otherwise it gets pretty confusing. Although I suppose that's appropriate given the context. Up until about 30 years ago most etiquette books published in the USA claimed that when you had a family with John Smith Sr., John Smith Jr., John Smith III and John Smith IV, when the original Sr. died everyone else should move up a notch -- Jr. should call himself Sr., III should shift to Jr. amd IV should become III. That of course almost never happened in reality because it would be pretty confusing, as you point out, and I think the etiquette books have now stopped trying to get people to do that. But a lot of people over the age of 50 still remember that was supposedly the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackerNeil Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 14 hours ago, Martell Spy said: Two major past backers of Kyrsten Sinema are threatening to end their support if she won't relent on the filibuster and get election reform done: EMILY's List and NARAL. A fresh sign of rising (and almost-surely-unsuccessful) pressure from the left. https://www.politico.com/minutes/congress/01-18-2022/sinemas-backer-threat/ I think the filibuster's days are numbered. I am not saying that number is 12 or even 112, but given that 48 of 50 Democrats are on board to narrow the practice--ten years ago you probably couldn't have found 25--I think it would not be wise to bet on the filibuster (as it is currently) seeing 2030. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartIheartTesla Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I havent posted here for a while, but there definitely appears to be some sort of groundhog day effect in US politics. A new bill/plan is proposed, and then almost immediately shot down due to insufficient support (usually from the same recalcitrants). I have to ask, why are the positions of Sinema and Manchin such a surprise to Democrats? Dont they meet regularly for lunch or whatever, or at least chat to each other on the phone? It just seems so weird to have such a breakdown in communications between work colleagues who are after all from the same party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Ormond said: Up until about 30 years ago most etiquette books published in the USA claimed that when you had a family with John Smith Sr., John Smith Jr., John Smith III and John Smith IV, when the original Sr. died everyone else should move up a notch Huh, interesting. The More You Know! 1 hour ago, IheartIheartTesla said: I have to ask, why are the positions of Sinema and Manchin such a surprise to Democrats? They aren't. The Dem leadership aren't making such an exerted and public push for voting rights/filibuster change because they actually think they'll flip Manchin and Sinema. They are doing it because they are under enormous pressure from a very large part of their base to try everything they can to pass the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Anyone else listeing to Biden’s press conference? He doesn’t sound great… :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Anyone else listeing to Biden’s press conference? He doesn’t sound great… :/ He sounds like regular, old Biden to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Durckad said: He sounds like Biden to me. Always better than the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Always better than the last one. A truly low bar to clear. Not the most ringing endorsement for ol' Joe, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Wondering what to make of Biden saying he thinks Putin "will move in" re Ukraine, beyond taking that statement at absolute face value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Rudy has been subpoenaed by the January 6 committee and he's intends to show up to Congress Total Landscaping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, SpaceChampion said: Rudy has been subpoenaed by the January 6 committee and he's intends to show up to Congress Total Landscaping. Congress Total Landscaping sounds like a spa that caters to a pre-orgy tune-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Larry of the Lake said: Wondering what to make of Biden saying he thinks Putin "will move in" re Ukraine, beyond taking that statement at absolute face value. It was cringe worthy to hear it reported publicly the President made that statement. Ukrainians were not happy to hear the flippancy and defeatist comments bandied about in a interview. In other words, even if Biden fealt it was true, I'm not sure it was wise to respond accordingly. I believe there were reports stating Ukranian leadership was furious over it. Eta: Ah heres one report over at CNN- Ukrainian officials tell CNN's Matthew Chance that they are "shocked" and "stunned" at President Biden's remarks during a White House press conference about Russian President Vladimir Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, DireWolfSpirit said: It was cringe worthy to hear it reported publicly the President made that statement. Ukrainians were not happy to hear the flippancy and defeatist comments bandied about in a interview. In other words, even if Biden fealt it was true, I'm not sure it was wise to respond accordingly. I believe there were reports stating Ukranian leadership was furious over it. Eta: Ah heres one report over at CNN- Ukrainian officials tell CNN's Matthew Chance that they are "shocked" and "stunned" at President Biden's remarks during a White House press conference about Russian President Vladimir Putin. Biden was… overly casual in the way he discussed a serious geopolitical danger. I was surprised by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Biden was… overly casual in the way he discussed a serious geopolitical danger. I was surprised by that. It's one of the reasons we get the "ugly Americans" rap. People do not enjoy being made to feel marginalized. In all likelihood though, Putin is poised to attack by the looks of it, I just think there's a sensitivity to the ways a President should discuss people's lives in the balance. A "no comment" response or just less bluntless would've been better for the World. It caused an unnecessary offense amongst the people already feeling imperiled and of course another occasion for Biden's critics to pounce. What do they call it, self inflicted wounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, DireWolfSpirit said: It's one of the reasons we get the "ugly Americans" rap. People do not enjoy being made to feel marginalized. In all likelihood though, Putin is poised to attack by the looks of it, I just think there's a sensitivity to the ways a President should discuss people's lives in the balance. A "no comment" response or just less bluntless would've been better for the World. It caused an unnecessary offense amongst the people already feeling imperiled and of course another occasion for Biden's critics to pounce. What do they call it, self inflicted wounds? An unforced error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkerX Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Conservative propaganda infesting my Facebook has taken a new twist. Past couple days there have been a slew of posts announcing 'Lee-Jackson Day,' described as patriots, heroes, and fine men worth emulating. Lots of posters taking pride in their confederate ancestors, along with the usual arguments about 'slavery not so bad,' and the 'civil war wasn't really about slavery.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, ThinkerX said: Conservative propaganda infesting my Facebook has taken a new twist. Past couple days there have been a slew of posts announcing 'Lee-Jackson Day,' described as patriots, heroes, and fine men worth emulating. Lots of posters taking pride in their confederate ancestors, along with the usual arguments about 'slavery not so bad,' and the 'civil war wasn't really about slavery.' And on that note: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Apparently Milwaukee is a finalist for the RNC in '24 and I've never felt the need to win the lottery more than I do right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jaxom 1974 said: Apparently Milwaukee is a finalist for the RNC in '24 and I've never felt the need to win the lottery more than I do right now... Pittsburgh is one of the final four as well. It's on! Winner gets Topanga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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