Which Tyler Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) https://news.sky.com/story/fighting-reported-as-people-shouting-england-til-i-die-try-to-reach-cenotaph-13005216 Clashes at the Cenotaph this morning - you'll never guess whether this is those marching for peace (away from the Cenotaph), or those self-identifying as hooligans and neo-nazis... On 11/8/2023 at 8:34 PM, BigFatCoward said: Statue defenders are the most laughable group of people on earth. Pity it's not particularly amusing. Edited November 11, 2023 by Which Tyler kissdbyfire and Crixus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) Edited November 11, 2023 by kissdbyfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Tough choice for the neo Nazis today. Which of the far right antisemitic marches do they even join? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) NVM Sorry, I forgot my "try not to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent" rule. I've remembered again now Edited November 11, 2023 by Which Tyler Heartofice, Crixus and kissdbyfire 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 The amoint of my facebook friends who bought the deepfake of Khan suggesting they move remeberance day is deeply conderning. You can guess their proffesion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said: The amoint of my facebook friends who bought the deepfake of Khan suggesting they move remeberance day is deeply conderning. You can guess their proffesion. Probably not grammar Nazis. BigFatCoward 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Probably not grammar Nazis. You're only highlighting proffesion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 I'm streaming/watching a series, too. And that error just jumped at me. So yeah, I didn't spot the rememberance day spell check fail, so my lack of attention is a definite course for condern. Altho, which I assume is just Geordie for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 82 arrests. Far right fucks, Suella set them right up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said: 82 arrests. Far right fucks, Suella set them right up. As far as I can tell, the score is 92-2 to the counterprotestors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Some people are saying the far right protesters at the Cenotaph shouldn't be called counter-protesters, because they didn't seem to be opposing the subject of the ceasefire march protest. It was just a protests against / for...what(?) that happened at the same time as the ceasefire march protest. Did Braverman actually do a favour to the ceasefire protest by misdirecting the right-wing thugs away from the path of the ceasefire protest? Was she playing 4-D chess, pissing everyone off but ultimately leading to a day without protester on protester violence, which we have to be happy that violence on the day was pretty much minimised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: Some people are saying the far right protesters at the Cenotaph shouldn't be called counter-protesters, because they didn't seem to be opposing the subject of the ceasefire march protest. It was just a protests against / for...what(?) that happened at the same time as the ceasefire march protest. Did Braverman actually do a favour to the ceasefire protest by misdirecting the right-wing thugs away from the path of the ceasefire protest? Was she playing 4-D chess, pissing everyone off but ultimately leading to a day without protester on protester violence, which we have to be happy that violence on the day was pretty much minimised? No she wanted violence, to weaken/force out the Met Commisioner and strengthen herself against Sunak. Edit : and to win over the far right Edited November 11, 2023 by Derfel Cadarn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said: No she wanted violence, to weaken/force out the Met Commisioner and strengthen herself against Sunak. Edit : and to win over the far right If she wanted protester v protester violence it seems she failed miserably. Did she genuinely think the ceasefire protest would go to the Cenotaph, or did she know they weren't and decided she wanted to deploy right-wing angry white mean to the Cenotaph under false pretenses to get the photo op for the client press to whip up into faux outrage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Anti-Targ said: Some people are saying the far right protesters at the Cenotaph shouldn't be called counter-protesters, because they didn't seem to be opposing the subject of the ceasefire march protest. It was just a protests against / for...what(?) that happened at the same time as the ceasefire march protest. Yeah, that makes sense, doesn’t it? I mean, if I want to protest for, say, naked skateboarding and someone thinks that’s a bad idea and wants to counter-protest, they should go near where the protest is carrying signs saying, “no naked skateboarding” or something. The hooligans didn’t do that, they went to a completely different location where a ceremony w/ deep meaning was being held to bait the police? Because Suella badmouthed the police? They were yelling, “you’re not English anymore” to the police, what does that even mean? The odd thing is, some of the actions of both Suella and Tommy Robinson and his ilk don’t strike me as very smart, but what do I know. 1 hour ago, The Anti-Targ said: Did Braverman actually do a favour to the ceasefire protest by misdirecting the right-wing thugs away from the path of the ceasefire protest? Was she playing 4-D chess, pissing everyone off but ultimately leading to a day without protester on protester violence, which we have to be happy that violence on the day was pretty much minimised? Definitely. As to what Suella wants, I have no idea. I have been seeing/reading a lot of reports saying she wants Rishi to sack her, but also, in case he doesn’t, to expose how weak he is. During last Thursday’s QT, when Fiona Bruce asked the audience who thought “should Suella stay”, only one solitary man raised his hand. ETA: I made a mess w/ the question, can’t remember how exactly Bruce phrased the question. Bottom line is, there was only one person in the audience who thought Suella should remain in office. Edited November 11, 2023 by kissdbyfire Crixus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 When you’ve lost the carefully selected conservative audience of QT, it’s over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Yeah, QT audiences tend not to be a beacon of progressivism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liffguard Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 14 hours ago, kissdbyfire said: The odd thing is, some of the actions of both Suella and Tommy Robinson and his ilk don’t strike me as very smart Nothing odd about that kissdbyfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Daily mail front page- Gove was 'jostled' that's their big takeaway from this whole fiasco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Daily mail front page- Gove was 'jostled' that's their big takeaway from this whole fiasco? Apparently he's gone out for a walk during a protest before, during an anti-lockdown protest a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Braverman just doubling down now. It’s insane. At least admit the part she played. Sure there were some quite troubling elements in the anti Israel marches, which shouldn’t be brushed over, but pretending she didn’t partly cause a bunch of neo Nazis and pissed football hooligans to travel to London just seems like gaslighting at this point. She’s totally downplaying it in these tweets, it’s almost incredible how brazen it is. Lord of Oop North, BigFatCoward and Which Tyler 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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