kissdbyfire Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 What a joke. Rishi Sunak to appear as replacement for Jacob Rees-Mogg on GB News https://www.thenational.scot/news/24109735.rishi-sunak-appear-replacement-jacob-rees-mogg-gb-news/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 hours ago, kissdbyfire said: What a joke. Rishi Sunak to appear as replacement for Jacob Rees-Mogg on GB News https://www.thenational.scot/news/24109735.rishi-sunak-appear-replacement-jacob-rees-mogg-gb-news/ Doesn't he have a job already? Is he going to moonlight? Fill in income gaps with a night shift? kissdbyfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Clearly it's a job interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/10/2024 at 2:48 AM, Spockydog said: So instead of promising the earth, they are saying fuck the earth. We live in a world where the entire planet can be put into mountains of unimaginable debt to save a bunch of fucking bankers. I do not accept that we cannot afford to try and save life on earth. Although I definitely think this money should be spent and invested, those acting like government spending/debt creation has no consequences is weird. Also spending when the economy is tanking is very different to spending when there is low unemployment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 No one is saying govt spending doesn't have consequences, but the consequences are not what most economists say they are. The starting point is properly understanding the consequences and addressing them. Rippounet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Do labour (all political parties actually) not vet their candidates? How utterly embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said: Do labour (all political parties actually) not vet their candidates? How utterly embarrassing. Yes, but politicians lie to get ahead. And when some big event comes out of left field it can then suddenly turn out that they also have principles and insist on declaring their previously concealed belief. Or possibly even newly formed belief. I know of one situation where a local government candidate suddenly went anti-vaxxer over the Covid vaccinations during the pandemic. He was rapidly deselected, but that did not stop him making a big fuss and gifting other parties a stick to beat his party with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 The interesting part of the Azhar Ali story is that it took so long for Labour to do anything about it, the feeling seeming to be that 'oh well it's too late for us to change him now and we need to win the by-election', which really shows the problem of politics in general and where priorities tend to really lay. Which Tyler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Another one, fucking hell labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 To be clear, this is what gets you blackballed in Starmer's Labour Party: Quote Now another leaked recording, published by the rightwing political news website Guido Fawkes, allegedly has Jones telling the group: “Fucking Israel again.” Jones was allegedly recorded saying: “Unless there is a military alliance between us and that particular country, Nato or whatever, or an individual one, no British person should be fighting for any other country.” kissdbyfire and Craving Peaches 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 9 minutes ago, Spockydog said: To be clear, this is what gets you blackballed in Starmer's Labour Party: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Ya know, when you're threatening to ban people because they heard someone say something and didn't 'challenge it', you're on a very slippery slope indeed. Starmer urged to suspend councillors at meeting that heard Israel comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Is what this guy is saying really so outrageous? If so, why haven't we banned all the news outlets who have reported similar stories? New York Times report says Israel knew about Hamas attack over a year in advance Quote JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel’s military was aware of Hamas ' plan to launch an attack on Israeli soil over a year before the devastating Oct. 7 operation that killed hundreds of people, The New York Times reported Friday. It was the latest in a series of signs that top Israeli commanders either ignored or played down warnings that Hamas was plotting the attack, which triggered a war against the Islamic militant group that has devastated the Gaza Strip. The Times said Israeli officials were in possession of a 40-page battle plan, code-named “Jericho Wall,” that detailed a hypothetical Hamas attack on southern Israeli communities. The Oct. 7 attack — in which 1,200 people were killed and 240 people were abducted and taken to Gaza — would uncannily mirror the one outlined in the battle plan. But Israeli officials had brushed off the plan, the report said, dismissing it as “aspirational” rather than something that could practically take place, the report said. The report comes amid public fury toward the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for failing to prevent an attack that appears to have been preceded by numerous warning signs. The attack was planned in plain sight. A month before the assault, Hamas posted a video to social media showing fighters using explosives to blast through a replica of the border gate, sweep in on pickup trucks and then move building by building through a full-scale reconstruction of an Israeli town, firing automatic weapons at human-silhouetted paper targets. In the video, the militants destroyed mock-ups of the wall’s concrete towers and a communications antenna, just as they would do for real on Oct. 7. Adding to public outrage over the military’s apparent negligence, the Israeli media has reported that military officials dismissed warnings from female border spotters who warned that they were witnessing Hamas’ preparations for the attack. According to the media reports, the young women reported seeing Hamas drones and attempts to knock out Israeli border cameras in the months leading up to the attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Judge criticises Home Office errors in Palestinian refugee’s visa case | Home Office | The Guardian Quote She returned to Lebanon and applied for a visa to study for a PhD at LSE in August 2022 and the Home Office rejected the application on the grounds that Ashkar’s presence in the UK was not “conducive to the public good”. The academic challenged the Home Office’s decision with a judicial review but it was later discovered that Braverman as home secretary had certified the visa refusal. What I find especially bad (among other things) is the fact that: Quote “On the one hand you have the FCDO [Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office] awarding Amena a Chevening scholarship, which on its own website they say are for ‘emerging leaders’ … Then, on the other hand you have the Home Office refus[ing] Amena a visa on the basis that her presence in the UK will not be conducive for the public good and not providing any reason.” Complete lack of communication here, both between the government and the lady concerned, but also the different branches of government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Spockydog said: Ya know, when you're threatening to ban people because they heard someone say something and didn't 'challenge it', you're on a very slippery slope indeed. Starmer urged to suspend councillors at meeting that heard Israel comments we very much have that in the police, 'grass or you are going down with them'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: we very much have that in the police, 'grass or you are going down with them'. How many criminal offences were committed at that Rochdale meeting? The Tory that sold the tape to the Mail is calling for everyone who was in the room to be banned. Edited February 14 by Spockydog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 1 minute ago, Spockydog said: How many criminal offences were committed at that Rochdale meeting? its Rochdale, so i'd imagine a lot of crimes against fashion. Edited February 14 by BigFatCoward Spockydog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Um it was reported from the day of Oct 7 that Bibi etc. were told this was going to happen, and told for at least 3 years, with ever more urgency as Oct 7 '23 got closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 ANTISEMITISM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Jones’ comments weren’t really a bannable offense, people are allowed to have opinions, even if they are bad. But in the context of Ali’s comments it makes sense for Starmer to come down hard on this stuff, he can’t suddenly get embroiled in more anti semitism accusations. If he’d dithered less on the Ali situation maybe Jones could have gotten a slap on the wrist. But he let it drag on because winning elections is more important than morals. What this does show though is that Labour is no less immune to containing idiots with barmy ideas. Believing that Israel let Oct 7 happen is pretty much 9/11 truther territory, and if you are the sort of person who believes in that stuff then that shows a real lack of critical thinking facility, and you shouldn’t be in political office. It’s no different to Covid conspiracy thinking on the other side. It highlights a lack of vetting for candidates as well as a particular brand of insanity that is inherent in the left fringes of the Labour Party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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