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7 hours ago, Martell Spy said:

Nikki Haley declines to say slavery was cause of US civil war
Republican presidential candidate discussed role of government, not slavery, in response to voter asking about reason for war

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/28/nikki-haley-civil-war-slavery

 

Someone didn't ask the obvious follow-up question: the role of government to do what exactly? What was the major political debate at the time about what govt should or shouldn't do?

When someone says the civil war was about something other than slavery, are they saying the wrong side won? Because the whole freedom and individual rights thing seems to be what certain people claim the Confederates were fighting for.

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Maine secretary of state disqualifies Trump from ballot under 14th Amendment

link:  Maine secretary of state disqualifies Trump from ballot under 14th Amendment (msn.com)

Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows has decided former President Donald Trump is ineligible to appear on the state’s 2024 Republican primary ballot.

Bellows, a Democrat, issued her decision on three challenges brought by Maine voters, including three politicians, over the nomination petition of Trump for the GOP primary.

“I conclude that Mr. Trump's primary petition is invalid,” Bellows wrote in her decision. “Specifically, I find that the declaration on his candidate consent form is false because he is not qualified to hold the office of the President under Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment.”

Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows has decided former President Donald Trump is ineligible to appear on the state’s 2024 Republican primary ballot.

Bellows, a Democrat, issued her decision on three challenges brought by Maine voters, including three politicians, over the nomination petition of Trump for the GOP primary.

“I conclude that Mr. Trump's primary petition is invalid,” Bellows wrote in her decision. “Specifically, I find that the declaration on his candidate consent form is false because he is not qualified to hold the office of the President under Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment.”

Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows has decided former President Donald Trump is ineligible to appear on the state’s 2024 Republican primary ballot.

Bellows, a Democrat, issued her decision on three challenges brought by Maine voters, including three politicians, over the nomination petition of Trump for the GOP primary.

“I conclude that Mr. Trump's primary petition is invalid,” Bellows wrote in her decision. “Specifically, I find that the declaration on his candidate consent form is false because he is not qualified to hold the office of the President under Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment.” 

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Yeah baby!   

 

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just saw that. The more states that do this the more he's tied up with yet more litigation.

We all recall what happened when Lincoln wasn't allowed on the ballots of most of the slaveocracy states.  

Ya.  War.

So it's gonna be war, one way or another or even a third way and others.  If there is an election that doesn't have him on the ballot, war.  If he's on the ballot and loses it's war.  So keep him off, as there's nothing to win at all by having him ON the ballot.

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23 minutes ago, Zorral said:

  So keep him off, as there's nothing to win at all by having him ON the ballot.

Keeping him off sets a precedence, one brought to you by the 14th Amendment.  Also,  this:  "

Two prominent conservative law professors have concluded that Donald J. Trump is ineligible to be president under a provision of the Constitution that bars people who have engaged in an insurrection from holding government office. The professors are active members of the Federalist Society, the conservative legal group, and proponents of originalism, the method of interpretation that seeks to determine the Constitution’s original meaning.

The professors — William Baude of the University of Chicago and Michael Stokes Paulsen of the University of St. Thomas — studied the question for more than a year and detailed their findings in a long article to be published next year in The University of Pennsylvania Law Review."   Link: Conservative Case Emerges to Disqualify Trump for Role on Jan. 6 - The New York Times (nytimes.com) 

That's right the Federalist Society, has some folks who really don't like Trump.   Next year is gonna be lit!  

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3 minutes ago, LongRider said:

What if one is a stinky, washed up, traitor who thinks he's King?   :wideeyed:

Given King's tweets about Trump in general, I'm shocked he hasn't made Trump a character in one of his novels yet... a Pennywise type character! 

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22 hours ago, LongRider said:

Oh lordy there are tapes!   More stinky stuff.

Recordings, emails show how Trump team flew fake elector ballots to DC in final push to overturn 2020 election | CNN Politics

Two days before the January 6 insurrection, the Trump campaign’s plan to use fake electors to block President-elect Joe Biden from taking office faced a potentially crippling hiccup: The fake elector certificates from two critical battleground states were stuck in the mail.....

 

Trump's seditious conspiracy was damaged by Louis DeJoy's "starve it till it's weak enough to privatize" tactics at the US postal service? Well, it's not quite Wormtongue stabbing Saruman, but it's nice.

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14 minutes ago, DanteGabriel said:

Trump's seditious conspiracy was damaged by Louis DeJoy's "starve it till it's weak enough to privatize" tactics at the US postal service? Well, it's not quite Wormtongue stabbing Saruman, but it's nice.

It’s sooooooo nice. I love when these idiot fascists do something idiotic that bites them in their flabby, wrinkled arses. 

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24 minutes ago, DanteGabriel said:

Trump's seditious conspiracy was damaged by Louis DeJoy's "starve it till it's weak enough to privatize" tactics at the US postal service? Well, it's not quite Wormtongue stabbing Saruman, but it's nice.

I haven't thought of it that way, hilarious.  :cheers:

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So, we destroy the nation's public education system -- cancel it essentially -- and then transfer all those public monies to fascist private individuals in order to finance home schooling.  Win, win, WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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.... The situation in Ohio illustrates the extraordinary moment at which America’s home-schooling movement finds itself after nearly a half-century of activism.

Few causes have enjoyed more success. In the 1980s, it was illegal in most of the United States for parents who weren’t trained educators to teach their children at home.

The Ohio Statehouse. Home-schooling leaders worry that if they accept government funding they will also be forced to accept oversight of the kind that they have spent decades dismantling. 
Today home schooling is legal for parents without teaching credentials, and many states don’t require them to have graduated from high school. In much of the country, oversight of home educators is scant, or nonexistent.

After an Ohio couple were exposed for running a Nazi home-schooling network earlier this year, state officials promised to investigate but eventually declared themselves powerless to do anything. And five months later, state lawmakers eliminated a decades-old requirement that home-school parents submit assessments of their children’s academic progress to school districts.

Only three states impose mandatory testing on most home-schooled children. A majority of states don’t require any form of academic assessment — and even in those that do, the results are often ignored. Over the summer, Vermont Education Agency officials persuaded legislators to end a requirement that home-schoolers send instructional plans and assessment results to the state, saying it lacked the staff to review them.

The number of families in this largely unmonitored educational landscape has soared, growing at a rate far faster than the population of public or private schools. A Washington Post analysis estimated there could be as many as 2.7 million home-schooled children in the United States, up from about 1.5 million before the pandemic.

But there are signs that the mainstream may be a less comfortable place than the margins for the activists who shaped America’s hands-off approach to home education.

Surprised and, at times, alarmed by the explosion of interest in home schooling, legislators and education officials in some states are talking about reviving oversight measures that home-schooling advocates have worked to erase. In South Dakota, public school officials are making the case for better tracking of a home-school population that nearly doubled over six years. ....

 

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This stuff hasn't just hit the radar -- it's been going on for decades and is acclerating like a rocket propelled bike.  But education per se, isn't in the equation, so to speak.

Ohio public schools under attack as lack of accountability allows Nazi homeschooling scandal
Marilou Johanek
MARILOU JOHANEK
FEBRUARY 7, 2023 4:30 AM

https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2023/02/07/ohio-public-schools-under-attack-while-lack-of-accountability-allows-nazi-homeschooling-scandal/

 


 

 

 

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18 hours ago, House Balstroko said:

Hopefully that turd Trump will never get a chance to hold office again. It’s a real shame that Republicans are doubling down on being as repugnant as possible. Someone like DeSantis would probably end up being even worse than Trump. 

Both of them were adequately described by Sgt. Joe Friday years ago.

 

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