Captain America 3: Civil War -- Hang onto your Underoos

[williamjm]

6 hours ago, red snow said:

Maybe Ant-man? And they'll certainly have to for Spidey - he's one of the few I'm glad the rule exists for (and the FF)

Possibly Vision? Admittedly we've only seen him facing CGI robots so far, so we don't have much information about what his attitudes might be.

[GallowKnight]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

To be fair, they're not really vigilante. They're not fighting mere criminals.

Good point.

[red snow]

1 hour ago, williamjm said:

Possibly Vision? Admittedly we've only seen him facing CGI robots so far, so we don't have much information about what his attitudes might be.

Given he's an Android that probably puts him in the killer category too - especially regarding Ultron

[Bastard of Boston]

18 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said:

Oooo, looks real good. Wanda has an American accent? I thought she was generic eastern Europe accented. Pleased with Press tweet reactions.

I still hear the "Sakovian" accent, faintly. I think it's just an issue of her only speaking one word sentences, so it doesn't relay.

[The Wolves]

21 hours ago, Bastard of Boston said:

New clip from the film. Looks pretty awesome.

 

-I will rage if something bad happens to Steve my Cap :-(

-I think Bucky deliberately shot at Tony and for that I hate him. 

-I hope they don't downplay Wanda's powers she is Marvel's most powerful character so that should be shown.

And I'm going to need spoilers if I'm going to watch this movie to be prepared for the worse. I still don't like my Avengers fighting. 

[The Anti-Targ]

Steve is supposed to die, though right. And Bucky pick up the mantle. Though I expect if they are going to kill off Steve it will be during Infinity War not Civil War. The next Solo Captain America, if there is one, will be Bucky's establishment movie.

[sifth]

3 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said:

Steve is supposed to die, though right. And Bucky pick up the mantle. Though I expect if they are going to kill off Steve it will be during Infinity War not Civil War. The next Solo Captain America, if there is one, will be Bucky's establishment movie.

 

I'm gona say Steve has to die, for the sake of the story or at the very least end up in a coma

 

I can also see Avengers Infinity wars part 1 ending with Steve waking up though.

[RumHam]

4 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said:

 

That should probably be spoiler tagged, no? I mean we don't know that they're going to follow the comics but still if they do I'm sure a lot of people would rather not read that. I heard they filmed three major character death scenes to keep people guessing. 

If he does die then I think that's kinda dumb, as Evans has not been hiding the fact that he's in Infinity War. I know the MCU has already technically brought Coulson back from the dead but still I'd rather not have them cheapen death's impact. If he's just in a coma then I guess that's ok.

[red snow]

10 hours ago, Bastard of Boston said:

I still hear the "Sakovian" accent, faintly. I think it's just an issue of her only speaking one word sentences, so it doesn't relay.

she probably used reality warping powers to sound american.

[Knight of Ashes]

I'm leaning towards Tony Stark being the one to die.

[red snow]

22 minutes ago, Knight of Ashes said:

I'm leaning towards Tony Stark being the one to die.

He's more disposable franchise-wise and saves a lot of money. Is Marvel brave enough to do an Avengers film without him though? Looking at box offices he's viagra to the MCU. A non Iron Man film makes $500 million less than one with him in. IM3 performed staggeringly well. If Civil War does IM or Avengers numbers that could also be the Stark/RDJR factor too.

Unless they bring him back so he's in infinite (or RDJR wants out) Marvel would be mad to take him of the table. Sadly, Cap is much more disposable.

[Knight of Ashes]

31 minutes ago, red snow said:

He's more disposable franchise-wise and saves a lot of money. Is Marvel brave enough to do an Avengers film without him though? Looking at box offices he's viagra to the MCU. A non Iron Man film makes $500 million less than one with him in. IM3 performed staggeringly well. If Civil War does IM or Avengers numbers that could also be the Stark/RDJR factor too.

Unless they bring him back so he's in infinite (or RDJR wants out) Marvel would be mad to take him of the table. Sadly, Cap is much more disposable.

Yeah, since apparently, RDJR is confirmed for Infinity War.

I just favored that particular speculation  since it's  an interesting twist, especially since Captain America dying would be um,  Captain Obvious (sorry!).

[red snow]

1 hour ago, Knight of Ashes said:

Yeah, since apparently, RDJR is confirmed for Infinity War.

I just favored that particular speculation  since it's  an interesting twist, especially since Captain America dying would be um,  Captain Obvious (sorry!).

Well, it could be like the comics and his death may only last the space between films. We can't have Spidey moping around missing them in his own film

[The Anti-Targ]

14 hours ago, RumHam said:

That should probably be spoiler tagged, no? I mean we don't know that they're going to follow the comics but still if they do I'm sure a lot of people would rather not read that. I heard they filmed three major character death scenes to keep people guessing. 

 

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If he does die then I think that's kinda dumb, as Evans has not been hiding the fact that he's in Infinity War. I know the MCU has already technically brought Coulson back from the dead but still I'd rather not have them cheapen death's impact. If he's just in a coma then I guess that's ok.

 

I don't see it as a spoiler. The MCU is not bound by what happens in the comics, so Steve dying in the comics does not require him to die in Civil War, or ever in the MCU. So it's not a spoiler if in the movie context it's just speculation. Also for some people who don;t know tghe comics at all and only see the movies, knowing that Steve dies in the comics heightens the movie experience because you know there is actual real jeopardy for Steve. For the most part in heroic movies (super or otherwise) people know the hero always survives. So the real possibility of death for a major character is a good thing for movie watchers to know. This isn't like Ned dying in GoT or .... dying in Harry Potter which are plot essential deaths and so spoiling the books is spoiling the movie/TV show. Because Captain America as a character continues it's not, at this point, plot essential for Steve to die in the MCU. 

They are changing things after all. It appears that Black Panther is siding with Iron Man in the movies, but in the comics he was with Cap. Though the trailers and posters might be misdirection.

[The Mother of The Others]

It's starting to get hard.  

(anticipation is mounting.)  

The "small" batch of heroes they're using for Civil War isn't a problem for me anymore.  They don't come off as small because they fill the screen just fine, whereas when X-Men movies show huge numbers of mutants waiting in line at the free clinic or running around in a scrum it tends to come off as generic and not memorable anyways.   You know what I'm praying?

This movie did totally sneak up on me though on account of all the focus on Ms. Marvel.   Laser focus, man.  Into the future.

 

[Mladen]

13 hours ago, red snow said:

He's more disposable franchise-wise and saves a lot of money. Is Marvel brave enough to do an Avengers film without him though? Looking at box offices he's viagra to the MCU. A non Iron Man film makes $500 million less than one with him in. IM3 performed staggeringly well. If Civil War does IM or Avengers numbers that could also be the Stark/RDJR factor too.

Unless they bring him back so he's in infinite (or RDJR wants out) Marvel would be mad to take him of the table. Sadly, Cap is much more disposable.

If we talk who is more disposable between Evans and RDJ, Evans certainly. RDJ is, I can't even describe what he is, when it comes to MCU box office performance. I don't recall any actor having such gravitas to their respective franchises, especially if we speak about franchises that are basically ensemble pieces. Yeah, for example, Depp is essential for Pirates of the Caribbean, but as I said, that is not ensemble piece. Hugh Jackaman is huge for X-men, but RDJ is whole another level.

I heard about theory that Cap dies and Bucky assumes the role of Captain America, which would be terrible. Stan can be a good supporting member, but as Avenger and lead in a movie? Nope. Perhaps some of the other Avengers are at risk? War Machine is most likely dead, right? I suppose Vision and Scarlet Witch are safe, as well as Ant-Man (there is a new movie). I do think someone is dying but I am not sure exactly who. Hawkeye, Black Widow? I have no idea... 

[RumHam]

1 hour ago, The Anti-Targ said:

I don't see it as a spoiler. The MCU is not bound by what happens in the comics, so Steve dying in the comics does not require him to die in Civil War, or ever in the MCU. So it's not a spoiler if in the movie context it's just speculation. Also for some people who don;t know tghe comics at all and only see the movies, knowing that Steve dies in the comics heightens the movie experience because you know there is actual real jeopardy for Steve. For the most part in heroic movies (super or otherwise) people know the hero always survives. So the real possibility of death for a major character is a good thing for movie watchers to know. This isn't like Ned dying in GoT or .... dying in Harry Potter which are plot essential deaths and so spoiling the books is spoiling the movie/TV show. Because Captain America as a character continues it's not, at this point, plot essential for Steve to die in the MCU. 

They are changing things after all. It appears that Black Panther is siding with Iron Man in the movies, but in the comics he was with Cap. Though the trailers and posters might be misdirection.

Personally I don't see it as much different from Game of Thrones readers talking about Ned's death in a show thread before it happened. It's not really speculation, in my opinion. You're not sure they're going to go that way, but that doesn't really matter. If they do, and there's a good chance they will, then it was a spoiler. It's not at all the same as speculating who is going to die based on trailers. 

Even if I agreed with you, it's still a spoiler for the comics and this isn't a comics spoiler thread. It's not inconceivable that someone here could have been reading Civil War in anticipation of the movie. It takes less than five seconds to spoiler tag something, so it seems like a reasonable precaution. 

[The Anti-Targ]

5 hours ago, The Mother of The Others said:

It's starting to get hard.  

(anticipation is mounting.)  

The "small" batch of heroes they're using for Civil War isn't a problem for me anymore.  They don't come off as small because they fill the screen just fine, whereas when X-Men movies show huge numbers of mutants waiting in line at the free clinic or running around in a scrum it tends to come off as generic and not memorable anyways.   You know what I'm praying?

This movie did totally sneak up on me though on account of all the focus on Ms. Marvel.   Laser focus, man.  Into the future.

 

Dang, I completely missed the informal announcement of an announcement re Capt Marvel casting. I'm glad we'll be getting some casting news before the end of the Northern summer.

[GallowKnight]

New Clip showing off a new recruit to Team Cap.

[Mladen]

I am probably looking too much into it, but has anyone noticed:

SPOILERS REGARDING PRESS CONFERENCE AFTER PREMIERE

Spoiler

That Emily VanCamp was placed in Team Iron Man in their separate press conferences. May she be the one whose allegiance shifted? Wasn't Sharon Carter supposed to be Team Cap? I recall her being on some early posters...